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Topic: GOAT Cfb Coach: Urban or Saint Nick?

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Re: GOAT Cfb Coach: Urban or Saint Nick?
« Reply #168 on: October 02, 2019, 10:26:36 PM »
Saban holds a certain amount of power, I think we'd all agree.  He could get pissy and, I believe, enact change when it comes to this issue.  But has he?  He can safely say he wants 9 games and look good, while doing nothing to create the change.  Win-win. 

We all realize this, don't we?
I wouldn't say that's a given, but it's certainly a possibility.
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Re: GOAT Cfb Coach: Urban or Saint Nick?
« Reply #169 on: October 02, 2019, 10:28:31 PM »
If there was a P5 minimum, we might get some same-conference matchups not counting in the conference standings.  Say Indiana isn't on Wisconsin's schedule, but the Badgers would like a P5 cupcake to schedule.....hey, why not IU? 


This was pretty common back in the 70s.
The '70s were the last decade of the 20th century in which I paid day-to-day attention to college football, and I don't remember that being common at all.  If it happened more than half a dozen times at the major-college level, I'd be amazed.
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Re: GOAT Cfb Coach: Urban or Saint Nick?
« Reply #170 on: October 02, 2019, 10:39:22 PM »
When I interviewed in Cincy, I was fascinated to see so many chili parlors.  I like chili and made it often.  My first night here I pulled in with my car and a UHaul trailer and unloaded and thought I would sample this chili.  There was a Gold Star not far from the apt.  I ordered chili and was asked what kind.  I looked perplexed and the lady said "2-way, 3-way, 4-way, 5-way, which?".  For an instant, I thought I had mistakenly entered a house of ill repute.  I told her I just wanted a bowl of chili, which is a one way I suppose.

It was AWFUL.  I was hungry, and they offered oyster crackers and hot sauce and I managed to quaff it down but it was far from transcendent.

I don't think I had any more for years.  Folks at work would want to go out for it and I would demur.
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Re: GOAT Cfb Coach: Urban or Saint Nick?
« Reply #171 on: October 02, 2019, 10:45:18 PM »
Blue Ash Chili has a six way which adds deep friend jalapenos.  I order that, hold the beans, and it's not bad at all.

I would demur from the beans, so you can also get a 4-way onion, as opposed to a 4-way bean.

One way - chili
Two way - chili over spaghetti
Three way - topped with cheddar cheese
Four way - can add EITHER onion OR beans
Five way - onion AND beans included
Six way - fried jalapenos.
In Tulsa, Ike's Chili, which goes back to the 1920s and was supposedly Will Rogers' favorite restaurant destination whenever he stopped in town, has something like that, although the named dishes don't go beyond three-way.  I don't think it offers fried jalapenos, but you can get the pickled variety, sliced.
The chili is pretty mild, so I usually get the jalapenos or use a lot of hot sauce.  Or both.
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Re: GOAT Cfb Coach: Urban or Saint Nick?
« Reply #172 on: October 02, 2019, 10:51:25 PM »
Back to the scheduling issue.  I agree that CD's proposal that all P5 teams be mandated to schedule 10 P5 opponents would be an improvement over the status quo.
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Re: GOAT Cfb Coach: Urban or Saint Nick?
« Reply #173 on: October 03, 2019, 08:10:52 AM »
The '70s were the last decade of the 20th century in which I paid day-to-day attention to college football, and I don't remember that being common at all.  If it happened more than half a dozen times at the major-college level, I'd be amazed.
The SEC used to play a lot of "non-conference" conference games. I don't think anyone else did that.


For several seasons in those days, the Big 10 (as it was then referred to) played 9 conference games.
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Re: GOAT Cfb Coach: Urban or Saint Nick?
« Reply #174 on: October 03, 2019, 08:17:03 AM »
The SEC has also played conference games against nonconference opponents.  Their scheduling back in the day was "creative" at times.  Georgia Tech would not play the Mississippi teams at all, even in Atlanta.  Of course, this was in the day of bowl games, teams wanted to position themselves for a gaudy bowl shot.

If a program was struggling, you could play your 6 conference games and win 3, and then 4 pastries and win 4, and be 7-3 and probably get a bowl invite if you had a good fan base.  If your team that year caught a break or three and was pretty good, you could end up 9-1 at times and get an Orange Bowl invite.

You would never play any Big Ten teams of course in a bowl game, nor a Pac Ten team.  It was ACC or Big 8.

There was one year, I think 1971, when UGA has a so so team and an invite to the Sun Bowl.  Nebraska was in the running for an NC and somehow lost their last game and all the major bowls were committed, they lost out going to the Cotton who invited whoever beat them.  So, the Huskers dropped all the way to the Sun Bowl.  They apparently were not happy and demolished UGA.  Dooley said he realized after that that they needed a real strength program at UGA.

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« Reply #175 on: October 03, 2019, 08:18:53 AM »
Even up into the 80s, the SEC really operated more as a loose confederation of teams, rather than a cohesive conference.  I recall seeing schedules where LSU would only play 6 or 7 conference games, in a 10-team SEC.  I don't remember SEC teams playing each other as OOC games frequently, but I never followed them that closely so it's entirely possible it was a common thing.


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Re: GOAT Cfb Coach: Urban or Saint Nick?
« Reply #176 on: October 03, 2019, 09:24:27 AM »
In 1982, Alabama played 7 conference games and everyone else played 6, with an 11 game season.  IN 1980, Bama played 7 as did Ole Miss and everyone else played 6.

In 1979, UGA was 6-5 with a 5-1 conference record, and had a lead in their last game at the half which would have made them 6-0 in conference and 0-5 OOC.  You don't see that often.

They would have gone to the Sugar Bowl at 7-5 with a 6-0 conference record.



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Re: GOAT Cfb Coach: Urban or Saint Nick?
« Reply #177 on: October 03, 2019, 01:41:34 PM »
The '70s were the last decade of the 20th century in which I paid day-to-day attention to college football, and I don't remember that being common at all.  If it happened more than half a dozen times at the major-college level, I'd be amazed.
I guess I worded that poorly.  It was much more common then, compared to now.  And it may have been mostly SEC-centric.  But it was definitely common for the SEC back in the day (purposeful use of common this time).
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Re: GOAT Cfb Coach: Urban or Saint Nick?
« Reply #178 on: October 03, 2019, 02:06:52 PM »
. . . There was one year, I think 1971, when UGA has a so so team and an invite to the Sun Bowl.  Nebraska was in the running for an NC and somehow lost their last game and all the major bowls were committed, they lost out going to the Cotton who invited whoever beat them.  So, the Huskers dropped all the way to the Sun Bowl.  They apparently were not happy and demolished UGA.  Dooley said he realized after that that they needed a real strength program at UGA.
It wasn't 1971.

That was the year of the OU-Nebraska GOTC, and Big 8 teams finished (1) Nebraska, (2) Oklahoma, and (3) Colorado after the bowl games.

EDIT: 1969 it was.  8-2 Nebraska played 5-4-1 Georgia in the Sun Bowl, and won 45-6.

Nebraska would to on to split the MNC in 1970 with Texas (which lost its bowl game but was voted UPI champ because UPI was still conducting its final poll before the bowl games) by beating LSU in the Orange Bowl and to win it outright in 1971 by beating Bama in the Orange Bowl.

Georgia would go 5-5-0 in 1970 and 11-1 in 1971, beating North Carolina in the Gator Bowl.
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Re: GOAT Cfb Coach: Urban or Saint Nick?
« Reply #181 on: October 04, 2019, 11:11:04 AM »
In 1979, UGA was 6-5 with a 5-1 conference record, and had a lead in their last game at the half which would have made them 6-0 in conference and 0-5 OOC.  You don't see that often.

They would have gone to the Sugar Bowl at 7-5 with a 6-0 conference record.



Obviously, the SEC sucked in 79
well, sucked worse than the ACC
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