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Topic: Game Changer / NIL

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MrNubbz

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Re: Game Changer / NIL
« Reply #406 on: February 11, 2024, 10:06:41 AM »
might seem absurd to Mike
not so absurd to the player and his family

to the player and his family, Mike's salary might seem absurd
Mike's agent probably negotiated, ‘I want this. I want that.’
Well mike at least accomplished something before he got paid,present the 3rd stringer list of accomplishments. If nothing then perhaps he should try a paper route or taking orders at a drive thru. Maybe that schollie will look that mutch better to him then - that's the reality of it
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Re: Game Changer / NIL
« Reply #407 on: February 11, 2024, 10:11:21 AM »
you of all people that rail against coaches making absurd amounts

What has Locksley accomplished to deserve an average of $6.1 million through 2027???

29-33 overall and 15-32 B1G?

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Re: Game Changer / NIL
« Reply #408 on: February 11, 2024, 10:16:49 AM »
Not for a 3rd stringer popping off and I didn't hand locksley that contract.Maybe just cut the kid and thin the heard.I've always been in favor of pay by production in the League and also send these kids to the NFL minor leagues.Let them pay the freight - I get a Yuengling ;D
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Re: Game Changer / NIL
« Reply #409 on: February 11, 2024, 10:28:02 AM »
When will we see a team when most/all of the starters are not on scholarship at all?


NFL players are not on scholarship, and neither should NFL light players.
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Re: Game Changer / NIL
« Reply #410 on: February 11, 2024, 10:35:28 AM »
I guess the 85 limits still applies, or would, but a team COULD place all their better known players on NIL deals and save scholarships for lesser guys who are not as prominent, but still contribute, walk ons etc.

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Re: Game Changer / NIL
« Reply #411 on: February 11, 2024, 10:38:30 AM »
Schools are already doing just that.
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Re: Game Changer / NIL
« Reply #412 on: February 11, 2024, 10:45:18 AM »
good, I hope my school is doing that
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Re: Game Changer / NIL
« Reply #413 on: February 11, 2024, 02:06:10 PM »
Stephen Ross where you at? time to give a bunch of Michigan players/recruits free multi-million dollar condos to use whenever they want in your billion dollar skyscrapers all over Manhattan and Miami bro.

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Re: Game Changer / NIL
« Reply #414 on: February 12, 2024, 12:44:39 AM »
might seem absurd to Mike
not so absurd to the player and his family
to the player and his family, Mike's salary might seem absurd

But the coach’s salary isn’t a point of NIL leverage.

What has Locksley accomplished to deserve an average of $6.1 million through 2027???

$6.1M is overpaying Locksley. (Is Scott Woodward also the AD for Maryland?) They must be paying Locksley a thank you for stabilizing the program. 23-16 over the past three seasons, and considering the division Maryland is in that's about much as can be expected from the caliber of a coach who likely isn't going to be good enough to be poached. Of their big three heavy-hitting division opponents – Michigan, Ohio St, Penn St – Maryland only plays Penn St next season due to the P12 additions shaking up the schedules.

Locksley criticizing the NIL/Transfer Portal isn’t new; Locksley is one of the NIL’s first major critics – from last June:

“I feel like I’ve got my legs cut from underneath me. Because my strength in recruiting isn’t some slick salesman job, it’s built on the longevity of relationships. And now the way the college landscape is with the NIL, the transfer portal — everything is pretty much transactional, and relationships have kind of gone out of the window.”

“Locksley’s team moved into a brand-new, $149 million football-only facility, just last year. The Jones-Hill House is beautiful. Unfortunately, it doesn’t really matter. The role that it plays in recruiting is minimal in contrast to NIL. Locksley will be the first to say so and he did not hold back: “Unfortunately, we moved in at a time when facilities have been de-emphasized in a recruit’s mind. Because they’d get dressed in the trash can for $25,000.”


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Re: Game Changer / NIL
« Reply #415 on: February 12, 2024, 05:44:35 AM »
This NIL thing has to find some boundaries somewhere, I think.

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Re: Game Changer / NIL
« Reply #416 on: February 12, 2024, 09:52:15 AM »
But the coach’s salary isn’t a point of NIL leverage.
of course not

the point is Locksley calling out paying a kid $100,000 as absurd as he is being paid an absurd amount
Mike's agent leveraged the university for $$$
the kid is merely doing the same
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Re: Game Changer / NIL
« Reply #417 on: February 12, 2024, 10:04:05 AM »
I doubt Temple gave the kid $100K.
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Re: Game Changer / NIL
« Reply #418 on: February 12, 2024, 10:41:49 AM »
Temple didn't give the coach that much either

Carey was Temple University's highest-paid employee for the fiscal year July 1, 2021 to June 30, 2022, as was the case in each of his three years on the job. Tax documents posted on Temple's website indicate that Carey earned $2,362,971 in total compensation for the year
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Re: Game Changer / NIL
« Reply #419 on: February 12, 2024, 11:01:45 AM »
This NIL thing has to find some boundaries somewhere, I think.
yeah it won't, so long as fans/boosters can donate whatever they want to collectives. genie is out of the bottle, there is no way to put it back in. 

what needs to happen at this point is B1G & SEC swallow up what's left worth taking, break off from the NCAA and form their own thing- then make the players employees and let them unionize and sign CBA's, and put them all on pay scale by position and by class- and every school pays the same rates- a salary cap of sorts. 

this will put a massive dent into NIL and inducements for recruiting- and what will happen is what NIL was intended for- only the very top level star players in the sport will get NIL deals.

 

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