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Topic: Game Changer / NIL

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utee94

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Re: Game Changer / NIL
« Reply #294 on: July 22, 2022, 12:10:29 PM »
The NCAA is basically a mall cop, no?
They can still make things tough for various programs.  Reducing scholarships, enforcing post-season bans.  

Quinn, of course, could buy his O-line electric bycycles or some other fancy gadget, or nice post-game meals at the local steakhouse.

Of would THAT be an NCAA violation of impermissible benefit ?
I think it would be okay, although I will admit that I am not an NCAA compliance expert...

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« Reply #295 on: July 22, 2022, 12:16:32 PM »
They can still make things tough for various programs.  Reducing scholarships, enforcing post-season bans. 
I think it would be okay, although I will admit that I am not an NCAA compliance expert...
Couldn't the school just ignore that?  No, we're providing these scholarships.  No, the bowl wants us, so we're going to play in it anyway.
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Re: Game Changer / NIL
« Reply #296 on: July 22, 2022, 12:25:36 PM »
guessing the other NCAA institutions might frown on that, but it would be interesting
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Re: Game Changer / NIL
« Reply #297 on: July 22, 2022, 12:38:19 PM »
Couldn't the school just ignore that?  No, we're providing these scholarships.  No, the bowl wants us, so we're going to play in it anyway.
guessing the other NCAA institutions might frown on that, but it would be interesting
Right.  The NCAA has only, but exactly, as much power as the member institutions grant to it. 

If somebody were blatantly just ignoring NCAA rulings on scholarship reductions and post-season bans, then I expect the other member institutions would have something pretty serious to say about it.  Expulsion from the NCAA would come with some pretty dire consequences.  Basically a self-imposed death penalty but for all sports, not just one.

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Re: Game Changer / NIL
« Reply #298 on: July 22, 2022, 01:01:47 PM »
At some point, yes, you'd find yourself with no opponents and no bowl would invite you.  Membership is voluntary on both sides.  I'm in an HOA, I agree to abide by their covenants, if I don't I can be fined, legally.  It happens.  There probably are some contractural agreements that can be enforced also.

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« Reply #299 on: July 22, 2022, 01:20:50 PM »
Y'all acting like Mark Emmert wouldn't IMMEDIATELY assemble a committee to discuss it

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« Reply #300 on: July 22, 2022, 04:17:22 PM »
If it was a program of a certain strength, is it not as likely other elite programs would side with that school?  If their crime wasn't some sort of cheating way of getting better, then who cares?  Maybe it would hasten the end of the NCAA with elite football programs..
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« Reply #301 on: July 22, 2022, 04:21:12 PM »
I'm sure some of the elite programs have had serious thoughts, maybe even discussions among themselves about kicking the NCAA to the curb.

They just haven't come up with a better solution for now 
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« Reply #302 on: July 22, 2022, 04:37:14 PM »
Kevin Warren reportedly meets with CFB players association seeking revenue sharing, better medical care

There is a players association coming to college football. The first chapter will be in the B1G and is being led by Penn State QB Sean Clifford.

In a video shared by More Perfect Union on social media, Clifford discussed some of the aims of the group. The association is investigating revenue sharing possibilities and better medical care.

“It’s all about the players that are here now, seeing how it wears on them,” said Clifford, “And then secondly, the players that have come and gone – the medically retired players.”

Clifford cited Journey Brown’s sudden medical retirement as an example.

“It’s tough for guys like that to be able to continue on and figure out what the next step is, and I think that being a leader for them is important to me,” Clifford explained.
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Re: Game Changer / NIL
« Reply #303 on: July 22, 2022, 04:48:46 PM »
I think revenue sharing should work both ways

the college gets a cut of a players future wages he earns in the pros
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Re: Game Changer / NIL
« Reply #304 on: July 22, 2022, 05:04:08 PM »
right or wrong

that ain't gonna happen
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« Reply #305 on: July 22, 2022, 05:19:32 PM »
I think revenue sharing should work both ways

the college gets a cut of a players future wages he earns in the pros
There's already a company doing that with minor league baseball players.  
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Re: Game Changer / NIL
« Reply #306 on: July 22, 2022, 06:15:53 PM »
If it was a program of a certain strength, is it not as likely other elite programs would side with that school?  If their crime wasn't some sort of cheating way of getting better, then who cares?  Maybe it would hasten the end of the NCAA with elite football programs..
I mean, sure.  If a "rogue" school's crime weren't literally backstabbing every other institution by deliberately ignoring rules that many other institutions value and willingly follow, then yeah, they might actually garner some support and challenge the system.

But that wasn't your hypothetical scenario.  In fact yours was completely the opposite.

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« Reply #307 on: July 22, 2022, 06:28:59 PM »
Where did I propose a specific scenario??
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