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Topic: Game Changer / NIL

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ELA

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Re: Game Changer / NIL
« Reply #140 on: July 02, 2021, 12:14:46 PM »

Talk to text?
Indeed.  Caught it the second time

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Re: Game Changer / NIL
« Reply #141 on: July 02, 2021, 02:00:04 PM »
So, Ole Miss and Auburn aren't really in the same set. Auburn is rich, much more so than Ole Miss. Auburn is more rich in the sense that they spend because they're crazy, but they paid their coach and staff more than the richest athletic department in the land.

I'll be interested in how it plays out because the teams you mention in bold, I'm unconvinced there's a big roster of them. Some schools have been more brazen, while others have not, but in the end, if you were landing classes that were in the same range or better than the brazen cheaters, it seems unconvincing that you didn't have someone helping out somewhere. Maybe not like Auburn, but probably some.

The sport has long been stratified across financial lines (more defined by rabid fan passion than just wealth). After that, it comes down to coaching and to a lesser extent, geography.

Eh, I'm basically comparing them to Texas.  Neither one is anywhere close to the same tier financially, and Texas has never engaged in the kind of brazen player purchasing that Auburn and Ole Miss have.  

Aside from Texas, what are the very wealthy schools that aren't all that dirty?  I don't know.  I guess I'd start with a list of the wealthiest schools, and then try to determine how clean they've been, compared to the really dirty cheater schools, you know, like Ole Miss and Auburn.

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Re: Game Changer / NIL
« Reply #142 on: July 02, 2021, 02:01:26 PM »
well, Texas hasn't been caught.  We know that, we don't know how dirty they've been in the past
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Re: Game Changer / NIL
« Reply #143 on: July 02, 2021, 02:02:51 PM »
well, Texas hasn't been caught.  We know that, we don't know how dirty they've been in the past
what a stupid statement

go play golf
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Re: Game Changer / NIL
« Reply #144 on: July 02, 2021, 02:03:48 PM »
well, Texas hasn't been caught.  We know that, we don't know how dirty they've been in the past
Caught bidding for players on the open market?  Yeah, you're gonna have to provide links to support this assertion.

Oh you said "hasn't."  Gotcha.


Look, we know who the dirty programs are.  EVERYONE knows who the dirty programs are.  Nobody can go on record saying it, but everybody knows.

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Re: Game Changer / NIL
« Reply #145 on: July 02, 2021, 02:04:08 PM »
going to the pub with my daughter for a frosted schooner and a Charlie Boy sammich

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Re: Game Changer / NIL
« Reply #146 on: July 02, 2021, 02:05:24 PM »
Caught bidding for players on the open market?  Yeah, you're gonna have to provide links to support this assertion.
I said, they haven't been caught.
We know that
we don't know if they offered something to Eric Dickerson and outbid by SMU
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Re: Game Changer / NIL
« Reply #147 on: July 02, 2021, 02:06:13 PM »
just stirring the pot on a Friday afternoon, before heading to Miles Inn all smiles!
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Re: Game Changer / NIL
« Reply #148 on: July 02, 2021, 02:06:52 PM »
I said, they haven't been caught.
We know that
we don't know if they offered something to Eric Dickerson and outbid by SMU
Yup, we sure do.  Eric Dickerson made it clear he was for sale, and only three schools were bidding for his services.  The one that got him, by setting him up with a $1 million annuity, the one that gave him the gold Trans Am, and the loose ship with players playing with guns in the dorms, you know the one, up there in Norman. 
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Re: Game Changer / NIL
« Reply #149 on: July 02, 2021, 02:13:10 PM »
well, Texas hasn't been caught.  We know that, we don't know how dirty they've been in the past

If so, then they suck at that too. 

They haven't had more than five players selected in the NFL draft since 2010. Only one guy picked in each 16 and 17.
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Re: Game Changer / NIL
« Reply #150 on: July 02, 2021, 02:14:36 PM »
If so, then they suck at that too.

They haven't had more than five players selected in the NFL draft since 2010. Only one guy picked in each 16 and 17.
Recruiting classes have been pretty good, but player development has been complete crap, for over a decade now.

Sucking sucks.

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Re: Game Changer / NIL
« Reply #151 on: July 02, 2021, 02:14:52 PM »
Eh, I'm basically comparing them to Texas.  Neither one is anywhere close to the same tier financially, and Texas has never engaged in the kind of brazen player purchasing that Auburn and Ole Miss have. 

Aside from Texas, what are the very wealthy schools that aren't all that dirty?  I don't know.  I guess I'd start with a list of the wealthiest schools, and then try to determine how clean they've been, compared to the really dirty cheater schools, you know, like Ole Miss and Auburn.

Harvard, Yale, Princeton.
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Re: Game Changer / NIL
« Reply #152 on: July 02, 2021, 02:15:22 PM »
Yup, we sure do.  Eric Dickerson made it clear he was for sale, and only three schools were bidding for his services.  The one that got him, by setting him up with a $1 million annuity, the one that gave him the gold Trans Am, and the loose ship with players playing with guns in the dorms, you know the one, up there in Norman.
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I suppose we can trust Eric ratted on the "only" 3 schools
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Re: Game Changer / NIL
« Reply #153 on: July 02, 2021, 02:15:32 PM »
Harvard, Yale, Princeton.
If they ever wanted to reenter the game, now would be the time.  They certainly have the resources.  And they could do it all legal-like now.

 

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