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MrNubbz

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Re: For those who pay attention to Notre Dame
« Reply #28 on: November 29, 2022, 06:44:48 AM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on November 28, 2022, 10:37:40 PM
21st Century Blue-Bloods
(2000-2021:  top 15 win% AND won a NC)

5. LSU (2003, 2005, 2019)
it was in 2007 Longhorns won it in 2005.Rose Bowl Vince Young vs USC and Reggie Bush
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Re: For those who pay attention to Notre Dame
« Reply #29 on: November 29, 2022, 08:49:41 AM »
can we please bury this thread?
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Re: For those who pay attention to Notre Dame
« Reply #30 on: November 29, 2022, 08:52:41 AM »
Well the thread isn't a Budweiser you could have left it alone and perhaps it gets buried.But now utee will be along to bump it just to piss you off :111:
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Re: For those who pay attention to Notre Dame
« Reply #31 on: November 29, 2022, 08:55:37 AM »
derned pot stirrin SEC Tiger stickin an ugly Domer thread on the B1G board
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Re: For those who pay attention to Notre Dame
« Reply #32 on: November 29, 2022, 08:56:15 AM »


Thanks
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Re: For those who pay attention to Notre Dame
« Reply #33 on: November 29, 2022, 10:34:39 AM »
Quote from: Temp430 on November 28, 2022, 01:56:22 PM
Kelly had not won a national championship after 12 years at Notre Dame.  To do so in the SEC has to be at least as hard.  Not sure he'll be able to do it for LSU.  Expectations at LSU are pretty high just like at Notre Dame.  I probably wouldn't have hired him if I was LSU's AD.  Or fired Ogeron for that matter. 

No, that absolutely had to happen.  For more than just on-field reasons, but the on-field stuff was pretty glaring and obvious.  
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Re: For those who pay attention to Notre Dame
« Reply #34 on: November 29, 2022, 10:36:42 AM »
Notre Dame is in the B1G isn't it?  Seems like an appropriate place for this thread.
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Re: For those who pay attention to Notre Dame
« Reply #35 on: November 29, 2022, 10:41:39 AM »
Quote from: utee94 on November 28, 2022, 10:57:47 PM
By definition, there is no such thing as a "modern" blue blood. 

But it's certainly arguable that being a recently successful program, feels better than being a foundering blue blood.

Not to change the subject, but it doesn't overly matter as applies to LSU.  They're plausibly a top 10ish all-time program (I've seen various lists using various metrics have them between about 9 to 13 or so....but haven't checked in a couple years and I could never ascertain how they weighted their categories).  ymmv on what constitutes a "blue-blood," but there seems to be an erroneous perception that LSU had no history when Saban showed up.  

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Re: For those who pay attention to Notre Dame
« Reply #36 on: November 29, 2022, 10:44:49 AM »
Quote from: SFBadger96 on November 28, 2022, 03:45:26 PM
They are all pressure cookers, but the pressure at ND is pretty intense, even by big football school standards. And at the same time, the school's admin hamstrings the recruiting more than at other schools, like LSU. I suspect that after 12 years, he probably felt like he didn't see an obvious path to a national title at a program that will never truly love him unless he gets one, so decided to pack it up and try somewhere else with a little more money, a little more flexibility, and a bit of a fresh start.

It's a job, and he felt like LSU would be a better job for him at that moment. So he moved.

I get why Kelly moved.  Any number of motivations could be behind that.

But the question is why do "they" (pundits) feel so confident he can do more at LSU than he did at Notre Dame?  Kelly's reasons for leaving would seem to be immaterial.  
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Re: For those who pay attention to Notre Dame
« Reply #37 on: November 29, 2022, 10:59:25 AM »
Because Kelly can dance and has a pretty good Southern drawl?
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Re: For those who pay attention to Notre Dame
« Reply #38 on: November 29, 2022, 11:00:19 AM »
Quote from: MikeDeTiger on November 29, 2022, 10:41:39 AM
Not to change the subject, but it doesn't overly matter as applies to LSU.  They're plausibly a top 10ish all-time program (I've seen various lists using various metrics have them between about 9 to 13 or so....but haven't checked in a couple years and I could never ascertain how they weighted their categories).  ymmv on what constitutes a "blue-blood," but there seems to be an erroneous perception that LSU had no history when Saban showed up. 
What would their status be around 1999? 

Totally agree that LSU is in that 9-13 range, but they made up a helluva lot of ground in the last ~20 years. 
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Re: For those who pay attention to Notre Dame
« Reply #39 on: November 29, 2022, 11:05:30 AM »
Quote from: MikeDeTiger on November 29, 2022, 10:44:49 AM
I get why Kelly moved.  Any number of motivations could be behind that.

But the question is why do "they" (pundits) feel so confident he can do more at LSU than he did at Notre Dame?  Kelly's reasons for leaving would seem to be immaterial. 
I'd say because Les Miles and Ed Orgeron won national championships there, and were otherwise uh...less than stellar coaches.
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Re: For those who pay attention to Notre Dame
« Reply #40 on: November 29, 2022, 11:10:20 AM »
Quote from: MaximumSam on November 29, 2022, 11:05:30 AM
I'd say because Les Miles and Ed Orgeron won national championships there, and were otherwise uh...less than stellar coaches.
Les won with a lot of left over players from Nick Saban. He took over a juggernaut well oiled machine. 

Ed O was just a literal anomaly. Perfect storm. Getting Joe Burrow with a chip on his shoulder to transfer in. Something like that may never happen again.
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Re: For those who pay attention to Notre Dame
« Reply #41 on: November 29, 2022, 12:07:03 PM »
Quote from: MikeDeTiger on November 29, 2022, 10:34:39 AM
No, that absolutely had to happen.  For more than just on-field reasons, but the on-field stuff was pretty glaring and obvious. 
Really? let's have it warts and all,did he go all Les Miles?
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