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Re: FIRE HARBAUGH
« Reply #98 on: November 02, 2021, 10:37:31 PM »
I'd have a helluva strong signal that my target was no doubt taking the job, before firing a 9 win coach

I think Nebraska thought they had that commitment from Houston Nutt's agent when firing Solich and somehow the deal blew up.

my chance of hiring what appears to be an upgrade would much more than simply realistic, because hiring a 3rd or 4th option that fails and takes the program in a worse position is much worse than staying with the 9-win guy until an upgrade can be secured.  Even if it does take a couple seasons
He was an alum who was about to take the South Carolina job. People reached out with back channels, said "hold off." So it was in place before Richt caught the bump. 

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« Reply #99 on: November 02, 2021, 11:36:14 PM »
Never could figure out why Nebraska wanted Nutt. Couple of 9 win seasons, nothing to get crazy about. Just weird. 

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« Reply #100 on: November 03, 2021, 07:44:12 AM »
Me either, but Steve Peterson was weird and desperate
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Re: FIRE HARBAUGH
« Reply #101 on: November 03, 2021, 10:11:46 AM »
This highlights my issue, you fire your guy and then "discover" you are in desparation mode and have to catch someone near the bottom of any list.

Maybe JH really needs firing no matter what, though I don't personally think so.  I think he survives the year unless they really implode and lose to PSU.

They lost a very winnable game against a pretty good team on the road, it's not as if they are suddenly a terrible team.

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« Reply #102 on: November 03, 2021, 11:10:42 AM »
I'm curious as to what people think of that last Michigan play. Michigan fans call it interference (EXTREME INTEREFERENCE) on mgoblog. Basically Michigan runs a pick play and successfully picks a defensive back off. Unfortunately for Michigan, McNamara throws to the guy doing the picking and not the wide open receiver. I tend to think no call is the right call here. But could also be defensive or offensive pass interference. Video at link below

https://gfycat.com/bruisedsnarlinggiantschnauzer-cade-mcnamara-pick-play-refs-suck

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« Reply #103 on: November 03, 2021, 11:13:16 AM »
I'm curious as to what people think of that last Michigan play. Michigan fans call it interference (EXTREME INTEREFERENCE) on mgoblog. Basically Michigan runs a pick play and successfully picks a defensive back off. Unfortunately for Michigan, McNamara throws to the guy doing the picking and not the wide open receiver. I tend to think no call is the right call here. But could also be defensive or offensive pass interference. Video at link below

https://gfycat.com/bruisedsnarlinggiantschnauzer-cade-mcnamara-pick-play-refs-suck
I thought it was the deep pass on the prior possession they had an issue with.  There was contact in the end zone, and the no call resulted in a UM FG to make it 33-30, instead of a 1st down.  It's hard to keep track of all of the things they want to whine about.

The pick play wasn't even close.  I said in the SOC that it worked to perfection, but then McNamera either threw it to the wrong guy, or threw it too soon.  The two MSU defenders collided, and he could have either thrown it to the guy going out, or waiting two steps and thrown it to the guy setting the pick, and either one was an easy TD.

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Re: FIRE HARBAUGH
« Reply #104 on: November 03, 2021, 11:17:13 AM »
no call imo

incidental contact - WR and DB were not looking for the ball

poor decision by the QB 
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« Reply #105 on: November 03, 2021, 11:32:43 AM »
I'm curious as to what people think of that last Michigan play. Michigan fans call it interference (EXTREME INTEREFERENCE) on mgoblog. Basically Michigan runs a pick play and successfully picks a defensive back off. Unfortunately for Michigan, McNamara throws to the guy doing the picking and not the wide open receiver. I tend to think no call is the right call here. But could also be defensive or offensive pass interference. Video at link below

https://gfycat.com/bruisedsnarlinggiantschnauzer-cade-mcnamara-pick-play-refs-suck
What I think?

I think McNamara sucks at throwing any ball further than 10 yards in the air. That's what I think.

McNamara doesn't turn it over much and he's great at dinking and dunking. But otherwise- he's just not very good. His pocket feel/pocket presence isn't great- despite having some awesome OL play protecting him all-season, his arm is weak, he cannot run/move at all- he's a statue despite being small at 6 ft ish and 210 pounds, and his deep ball is truly atrocious. He was a VASTLY SUPERIOR player to Joe Milton- who literally sucks- but Cade is a high quality back-up QB at best. Michigan will be going nowhere if that is the type of QB they continue to start.

This programs future is JJ McCarthy or bust.

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« Reply #106 on: November 03, 2021, 11:36:23 AM »
This highlights my issue, you fire your guy and then "discover" you are in desparation mode and have to catch someone near the bottom of any list.

Maybe JH really needs firing no matter what, though I don't personally think so.  I think he survives the year unless they really implode and lose to PSU.

They lost a very winnable game against a pretty good team on the road, it's not as if they are suddenly a terrible team.
No one said they are a terrible team. This is disconcerting trend that has been going on for 7 years straight- and Jim Harbaugh is very clearly a terrible coach when it comes to facing teams in ranked match-ups. 

His .18% winning percentage in ranked match-ups on the road is literally the single worst of any coach at one school in history. Kirk Ferentz at Iowa and John Vaught at Mississippi were tied for 1st place at .250, until the crown prince of Michigan himself unseated them both at .182. EIGHTEEN F#CKING PERCENT. 

This autistic dweeb wasn't paid $9 million a year and then had his salary cut in half this year for 18% and to be the #1 all-time loser in the stat. 

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« Reply #107 on: November 03, 2021, 11:42:01 AM »
I thought it was the deep pass on the prior possession they had an issue with.  There was contact in the end zone, and the no call resulted in a UM FG to make it 33-30, instead of a 1st down.  It's hard to keep track of all of the things they want to whine about.

The pick play wasn't even close.  I said in the SOC that it worked to perfection, but then McNamera either threw it to the wrong guy, or threw it too soon.  The two MSU defenders collided, and he could have either thrown it to the guy going out, or waiting two steps and thrown it to the guy setting the pick, and either one was an easy TD.
don't even get me f#cking started on that. Idiots like Sam Webb and Rich Eisen crying like the bitches they are- when they should be HEATED and want to rip into Harbaugh, Mike MacDonald, and Cade McNamara. 

This is a TREND with Harbaugh- and his team was up SIXTEEN points late into the 3rd QTR. The dude beefed a 16 point lead with maybe 21 mins left in the game. How is this on anybody else but him? 

Mike MacDonald "the boy genius, savior from Don Brown!" was a joke. His defense got ran roughshod on and never adjusted. Walker ran for 200 and 5 TD's. He freaking dominated that sorry ass defensive front. They never tackled him all game long. 

And Cade McNamara IS A BACK-UP QB. How long are Michigan fans going to blow this kid for until they realize he just isn't that good? He missed every single deep throw he attempted, a couple of which would've went for 6 to open WR's- and the very last deep throw they let him throw- the kid threw it right to the other team. He is NOT good. He's not a play-maker or a guy you can say- hey- we have to put the team on your back- go make plays and win us this game. That ain't him. He's a dink and dunker, game manager. At best.

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Re: FIRE HARBAUGH
« Reply #108 on: November 03, 2021, 11:54:41 AM »
My guess is he gets one more year, at least, unless they have a clear succession plan.  The next guy they hire could easily be no better, and can well be worse.

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« Reply #109 on: November 03, 2021, 11:55:48 AM »
Simple odds would suggest that he's much more likely to be worse than better. 

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« Reply #110 on: November 03, 2021, 12:03:23 PM »
My guess is he gets one more year, at least, unless they have a clear succession plan.  The next guy they hire could easily be no better, and can well be worse.
They've put themselves in a weird position, by not firing him after last year. Say he goes from 2-4 to 10-2 and a NY6 Bowl.  That was basically what he was doing every year before 2020, so to retain him off 2020, what did he have to do to keep his job in 2021? Was it national title or bust? And then if they do retain him, and then he does the same thing next year, then do you let him go? It's a very weird position to be in, as a helmet school that isn't competing for national titles, but is still very good. This isn't Nebraska or Tennessee or USC struggling to make bowls. If he were doing this at Wisconsin, or Michigan State, or Iowa, they'd be ready to put a statue up.

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Re: FIRE HARBAUGH
« Reply #111 on: November 03, 2021, 12:09:52 PM »
Simple odds would suggest that he's much more likely to be worse than better.
this. coaches typically wind down and the winning wanes. 

very rarely do you see it go the other way.

 

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