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Cincydawg

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Re: FIRE HARBAUGH
« Reply #56 on: November 01, 2021, 12:29:23 PM »
Some programs do pretty well with relatively poor recruiting, but they do well sporadically, and often have thin rosters (Iowa State).  If you want to be in the top ten every year, I think elite recruiting is an absolute necessity.
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« Reply #57 on: November 01, 2021, 12:35:09 PM »
I don't think you need a sexy name. You just need a good coach.

Usually when you go for the name you get a guy that's just a failed retread (see Texas & Sark) or a guy who runs a gimmick offense in a shit conference (RichRod) or a guy that's just past his prime (Harbaugh). There are no Saban's or Urban's. Those dudes are unicorns. 

Don't need a sexy name. Need a guy that can really coach. MSU seems to have been able to figure that out with Dantonio and Tucker. Consider me jealous.
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Re: FIRE HARBAUGH
« Reply #58 on: November 01, 2021, 12:53:34 PM »
Quote from: Mdot21 on November 01, 2021, 09:46:13 AM
as his winning pct % vs AP ranked teams on the road is....wait for it.... .182. That's some winning football for you! What a great coach! He can ALMOST win 20% of his games on the road vs good teams!
How bad is this really? I mean ranked teams don't lose all that much and they lose even less at home. 

I'm not willing to take the time to figure it out manually, is there somewhere I could look up road records against ranked teams for Harbaugh's tenure? 20% doesn't sound very good, but how does it compare?
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Re: FIRE HARBAUGH
« Reply #59 on: November 01, 2021, 12:55:33 PM »
better than Scott Frost
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« Reply #60 on: November 01, 2021, 12:57:43 PM »
Quote from: medinabuckeye1 on November 01, 2021, 12:53:34 PM
How bad is this really? I mean ranked teams don't lose all that much and they lose even less at home.

I'm not willing to take the time to figure it out manually, is there somewhere I could look up road records against ranked teams for Harbaugh's tenure? 20% doesn't sound very good, but how does it compare?
He's not even 20%. He's 18%. That's really bad.
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« Reply #61 on: November 01, 2021, 12:59:37 PM »
Frost could really craft a "speed in space" offense with those Wolverine athletes. 

Harbaugh could run some pretty mean man ball with those Nebraska farm boys. 

Clearly the choice is obvious. Swap head coaches. 
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« Reply #62 on: November 01, 2021, 01:04:00 PM »
ESPN just put up a stat- Harbaugh's winning pct % in ranked match-ups on the road is worst of any coach at a single school in FBS history.

John Vaught at Mississippi is at .250 and Kirk Ferentz is at .250 as well.

Congrats Jim! You're #1 at something! Amazing 18% win pct!
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« Reply #63 on: November 01, 2021, 01:47:30 PM »
I think Frost is 0 for vs ranked opponents regardless of home/away

must be some minimum number of games or such
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Re: FIRE HARBAUGH
« Reply #64 on: November 01, 2021, 01:56:10 PM »
Quote from: Mdot21 on November 01, 2021, 12:35:09 PM
There are no Saban's or Urban's. Those dudes are unicorns.
I suspect Urban will be available. Question is, "Would Michigan take him, and would he coach Michigan?"
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Re: FIRE HARBAUGH
« Reply #65 on: November 01, 2021, 02:28:07 PM »
Quote from: FearlessF on November 01, 2021, 01:47:30 PM
I think Frost is 0 for vs ranked opponents regardless of home/away

must be some minimum number of games or such
Maybe it's when both teams are ranked.  Obviously, Vandy would be near 0% over whatever time period.
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Re: FIRE HARBAUGH
« Reply #66 on: November 01, 2021, 03:08:40 PM »
Quote from: Brutus Buckeye on November 01, 2021, 12:59:37 PM
Frost could really craft a "speed in space" offense with those Wolverine athletes.

Harbaugh could run some pretty mean man ball with those Nebraska farm boys.

Clearly the choice is obvious. Swap head coaches.
I support this. 

Bonus points since Frost took half a title from Michigan. 
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Re: FIRE HARBAUGH
« Reply #67 on: November 01, 2021, 03:31:54 PM »
Frost would be as welcome in AA as Urban
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Re: FIRE HARBAUGH
« Reply #68 on: November 01, 2021, 03:38:05 PM »
I wouldn't fire a coach without a pretty good succession plan with options.

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« Reply #69 on: November 01, 2021, 03:54:27 PM »
I wouldn't either, but the Huskers have done it twice.  And it seems it happens more often than not.
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