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Topic: ESPN's Top 60 QBs of the 2000s

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rolltidefan

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Re: ESPN's Top 60 QBs of the 2000s
« Reply #28 on: March 31, 2021, 01:20:01 PM »
Michigan has a couple of those on that list.
if we're talking any starting qb, bama has a guy that went 3-7, 12 yrds, 0 tds, 1 int. also added 3 rushed for -2 yards. brandon avalos, 2003 vs so miss. starter and backup qb's got injured, left 3rd string avalos who was either a true soph or rs frosh, to take reins. somehow bama won, lol.

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Re: ESPN's Top 60 QBs of the 2000s
« Reply #29 on: March 31, 2021, 01:27:00 PM »
the talent around each was pretty damn comparable. only reason jones is hit is cause it's annual for bama vs cyclical for lsu. but that lsu team was stacked. bama was too, no doubt.

that lsu team had 6 players on offense drafted, not including burrow, 2 in the first round, and several more expected in this draft.

bama will surely look similar over next couple years, but that's the point, they're very similar.
I think the LSU roster was normal-great and I'm not sure about the lines.  Bama, in the past 7-8 years, has had among the most talented rosters of all time.  
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Re: ESPN's Top 60 QBs of the 2000s
« Reply #30 on: March 31, 2021, 06:29:44 PM »
I think the LSU roster was normal-great and I'm not sure about the lines.  Bama, in the past 7-8 years, has had among the most talented rosters of all time. 
but we aren't talking full rosters, we're just talking players who played significantly. and in that case, lsu 2019 was comparable to 2020 bama.

excluding qb's and defense, here are the draft results and/or projections (for projections i'm going with optimistic projections for each, and these are actual results unless noted otherwise):

lsu:
3 1st-2nd round wr (1 drafter 1st, 1 projected top 5-10 and 1 projected late 1st-early 2nd in 2020)
1 1st round rb
2 3rd rd oline
1 4th rd oline
1 7th rd te

their oline won the joe moore award for best college oline in 2019.

and for the 2020 nfl season, every nfl eligible player from that 2019 team ended up on nfl rosters, even those undrafted, which includes another wr, te and 2 more oline.

awards for those players include the belitnikoff, unanimous aa wr, 2nd team aa oline, 3 first team all sec, 3 2nd team all sec.

bama (the are all projections for 2020):
2 1st rd wr (1 top 5-10, 1 top 15-20)
1 1st rd rb
2 2nd rd oline
1 3rd rd oline
1 5th rd oline
1 6th rd te

bama oline won same joe moore award in 2020.

future draft projections for players ineligible this draft include a top 3 rd wr, top 2 rd oline and draftable rb 4-7th (those are generous guesses if they were in this draft, could change with monster year in 2021).

awards for those players include the heisman, belitnikoff, maxwell, walter camp, hornung, ap poty, sporting news poty, sec off poty (all smith, most of these went to lsu's burrow in 2019), doak, outland, jacobs, remington, 4 unanimous aa (wr, rb, 2 oline), 4 first team all sec, 1 2nd team all sec oline.

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Re: ESPN's Top 60 QBs of the 2000s
« Reply #31 on: March 31, 2021, 07:45:19 PM »
Don't forget Joe Brady!
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Re: ESPN's Top 60 QBs of the 2000s
« Reply #32 on: April 01, 2021, 08:03:10 PM »
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Re: ESPN's Top 60 QBs of the 2000s
« Reply #33 on: April 01, 2021, 08:37:23 PM »
I wonder what Chase ran a year ago.  Kind of nice to have over a year to prep for the combine/draft.
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Re: ESPN's Top 60 QBs of the 2000s
« Reply #34 on: April 01, 2021, 08:49:20 PM »
I feel the NFL combine is more legit than some school's Pro Day
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Re: ESPN's Top 60 QBs of the 2000s
« Reply #35 on: April 01, 2021, 11:53:00 PM »
I feel the NFL combine is more legit than some school's Pro Day
Pro Day #'s are inflated garbage. The testing isn't as real as the combine.

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Re: ESPN's Top 60 QBs of the 2000s
« Reply #36 on: April 02, 2021, 09:39:59 AM »
I feel the NFL combine is more legit than some school's Pro Day
unless it's changed in recent years, pro days are almost always hand times. i haven't heard of anywhere that uses laser times for pro days.

that said, i've read most nfl scouts don't use the laser times at the combine either. they use their own hand times anyway, so for them it isn't really different.

but guys can have good/bad days running and working out, which can change a lot. 4-5 years back, there was a bama dline that was supposedly capable of beating he bench record. there was a video of him matching it in pre-combine workouts. but at combine he wasn't even top 5 that year, and nowhere near the record. had a bad day at the worst time.

 

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