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Re: Electric Vehicle News Items
« Reply #1540 on: April 04, 2024, 08:54:15 AM »
Predicintg the future is fraught, usually, but it's interesting to mull how personal transportation in the US could be in say 2050.  I see predictions that half the cars on the road would still be ICE vehicles, not to mention heavy trucks.  That would not be nearly as rapid a changeover as say CDs or DVDs or horseless carriages or steam to DE trains.  And of course it's possible some breakthrough happens, like the Toyota claims for their new batteries.  That would change things a lot, if true, and not expensive as heck.

Norway is transitioning VERY rapidly, I wonder if that is too rapid, and they end up stuck with a lot of obsolescent EVs in a decade.

We have one poster here interested in an EV out of about 20 or so who are not, that could be about "normal".

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« Reply #1541 on: April 04, 2024, 09:01:05 AM »
I'm interested in hybrid, but not plug-in.
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« Reply #1542 on: April 04, 2024, 09:04:15 AM »
Yeah, me too.  Toyota and Honda may have made the correct call here.

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« Reply #1543 on: April 04, 2024, 09:05:13 AM »
I just don't want a Toyota or Honda.
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« Reply #1544 on: April 04, 2024, 09:57:25 AM »
I've never owned a Japanese vehicle and I don't think I ever will

an EV?
Maybe, if it saves me $$$
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« Reply #1546 on: April 04, 2024, 10:01:42 AM »
I always wanted a German car

might not happen
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« Reply #1547 on: April 04, 2024, 10:02:35 AM »
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I buy two year old cars, in general. Someone else can take the beating. Someone from Naples or something.
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« Reply #1548 on: April 04, 2024, 10:33:50 AM »
Ford to delay all-electric SUV to focus on hybrid vehicles (cnbc.com)

Maybe we should instead discuss the pros and cons of hybrids.

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« Reply #1549 on: April 05, 2024, 06:39:44 AM »
How Much Does It Cost to Charge an Electric Vehicle? (caranddriver.com)

Finally ....

Overall, home charging was always much cheaper for 100 miles than paying for gasoline in a comparable vehicle—as little as one-quarter the price. On the other hand, DC fast-charging used for road trips was generally pricier than gasoline. But very inefficient vehicles driven in places where gasoline is very expensive may still come out slightly ahead for highway charging.

Most EVs today cover the bulk of their miles using charging at home or work, so the weighted average gives EVs a decisive advantage—though this may not apply to apartment dwellers without the ability to install their own charging equipment.


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« Reply #1550 on: April 05, 2024, 11:50:31 AM »
Poor resale values of EVs are a problem for the industry, warn experts (cnbc.com)


  • A recent study showed that the average price of an EV fell 31.8% in the past year compared to just 3.6% for internal combustion engine vehicles.
  • The fast depreciation rate could dissuade car buyers from choosing EVs over combustion engine vehicles.
  • The price war in the new EV market could continue to suppress prices for their used counterparts.


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« Reply #1551 on: April 05, 2024, 12:11:30 PM »
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« Reply #1552 on: April 05, 2024, 03:25:26 PM »
Poor resale values of EVs are a problem for the industry, warn experts (cnbc.com)


  • A recent study showed that the average price of an EV fell 31.8% in the past year compared to just 3.6% for internal combustion engine vehicles.
  • The fast depreciation rate could dissuade car buyers from choosing EVs over combustion engine vehicles.
  • The price war in the new EV market could continue to suppress prices for their used counterparts.


Makes sense if you expect prices to fall..

If you think an EV will be cheaper to buy next year, it's prudent to put off the purchase. Which incidentally can depress demand in the aggregate, forcing automakers to cut pricing to move metal.

And if you expect the price of a new EV to keep declining, you're going to expect an even deeper discount to buy used than you would if you expected new car pricing to be stable.

And of course this is why automakers are scaling back EV production. They need to reset supply to match demand to stop price erosion. Because they can't cut costs as quickly as the market thinks price will drop. They need pricing to stabilize to reset consumer expectation--in a sort of tautology--in pricing stability.

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« Reply #1553 on: April 05, 2024, 03:28:36 PM »
A recent study from iSeeCars.com showed the average price of a 1- to 5-year-old used EV in the U.S. fell 31.8% over the past 12 months, equating to a value loss of $14,418. In comparison, the average price for a comparably aged internal combustion engine vehicle fell just 3.6%.

 

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