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Topic: Does Joe Biden have the Mental Capacity to be the President of the US?

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Cincydawg

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Re: Does Joe Biden have the Mental Capacity to be the President of the US?
« Reply #546 on: July 13, 2024, 09:10:19 AM »
Joe Biden allies present him as safer bet than Kamala Harris (thehill.com)

I disagree obviously.  Biden will be under a microscope for any more gaffes or misstatements, it can only get worse for him.  He's a gaffe machine under the best conditions, and sounds weak and contrived, to me, at best ....  anyway ....

All that disappears the instant Harris is the candidate - and yes, some other things appear.  They are less than the "age" thing by far, and Joe himself has declared her qualified.

A rather large but usually split voting block is suburban women, and they'd favor her I think, probably 60-40.  Blacks would be energized.  The donors would be back on board.  Trump's major hope is they nominate Joe.

As President, I suspect Harris wouldn't be making decisions of any import.  Her staff would "run her" as a show pony in effect.  Maybe she could be coached to make decent cabinet appointments, but they'd probably mostly be show ponies and DEIs  anyway.





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Re: Does Joe Biden have the Mental Capacity to be the President of the US?
« Reply #547 on: July 13, 2024, 09:12:14 AM »
I personally have seen no compelling evidence the 2020 election was "stolen", here or elswhere.  I think the fake votes were no more than usual.

The absentee ballots here have safeguards that I thought were useful.  Ballot harvesting happens in nearly every election, and mostly impacts local outcomes.

Anyway, just my take.
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Re: Does Joe Biden have the Mental Capacity to be the President of the US?
« Reply #548 on: July 13, 2024, 09:25:23 AM »
We have a Trump thread now.
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Re: Does Joe Biden have the Mental Capacity to be the President of the US?
« Reply #549 on: July 13, 2024, 09:42:53 AM »
Quote from: Honestbuckeye on July 13, 2024, 08:39:39 AM
That is why he was already behind. 
Biden was behind IMHO largely because of inflation. 
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Re: Does Joe Biden have the Mental Capacity to be the President of the US?
« Reply #550 on: July 13, 2024, 09:54:53 AM »
Polls show Democrats are right to panic about Biden (msnbc.com)

Polling averages aggregated by FiveThirtyEight and RealClearPolitics show Trump surged and Biden dipped significantly in national polls after the June 27 debate. The averages put Biden a few points behind Trump, which is not by any means insurmountable. But Biden should be trouncing Trump, a corrupt aspiring autocrat, one of the most unpopular people to ever run for presidential office and a man recently convicted of 34 felony counts and found liable for sexual abuse. Around this time in their 2020 match-up, Biden was beating Trump by almost 10 points. It’s also important to remember that in 2016 and 2020 Trump outperformed the polls. That he’s consistently leading Biden this election cycle is alarming.

Pollsters at the Cook Political report changed the status of three battleground states from toss-ups to “lean Republican” after the debate. And according to the combined data of the New York Times/Sienna College polls, Biden is seeing an extraordinary dip — Trump now has not just his biggest lead over Biden in this election cycle, but his largest lead over a Democrat since his 2016 White House bid. New York Times chief political correspondent and poll guru Nate Cohn told The New Yorker in a recent interview, “There are no precedents in recent memory for Presidents to have approval ratings like Biden’s who then go on to win re-election.”


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Re: Does Joe Biden have the Mental Capacity to be the President of the US?
« Reply #551 on: July 13, 2024, 02:04:23 PM »
Quote from: betarhoalphadelta on July 13, 2024, 09:42:53 AM
Biden was behind IMHO largely because of inflation.
That and seemingly the narrative where people born males wanted to tinkle,change and compete with girls was ushered in with him. Oh and the treasonous horshit at the border as the people in power implimenting it live in their gated communities
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Re: Does Joe Biden have the Mental Capacity to be the President of the US?
« Reply #552 on: July 13, 2024, 04:19:19 PM »
Quote from: MrNubbz on July 13, 2024, 02:04:23 PM
That and seemingly the narrative where people born males wanted to tinkle,change and complete with girls was ushered in with him. Oh and the treasonous horshit at the border as ther people in power implimenting it live in their gated communities
Eh. I don't think there are many people who were "on the fence" regarding this election who are going to base their vote on how each candidate wants to treat trans people. And I think that issue is tied to general wokeness, which IMHO Biden has largely avoided.  

Immigration, on the other hand, probably DOES matter to those independents who were on the fence. I'll give you that. Still think inflation is a lot bigger of an issue to most of them though. 

A bigger issue would be the overturning of Roe. That's one that Trump is desperately trying to avoid being an anchor around his neck, in the same way that Biden doesn't want to be dragged down by immigration. 
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Re: Does Joe Biden have the Mental Capacity to be the President of the US?
« Reply #553 on: July 13, 2024, 04:42:51 PM »
Trump brags about Roe.  
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Re: Does Joe Biden have the Mental Capacity to be the President of the US?
« Reply #554 on: July 13, 2024, 05:02:26 PM »
https://apnews.com/article/republicans-abortion-party-platform-trump-rnc-5561e857c5501df9864ab8ca666d8bc5


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MILWAUKEE (AP) — The Republican National Committee moved Monday to adopt a party platform that reflects former President Donald Trump’s position opposing a federal abortion ban and ceding limits to states, omitting the explicit basis for a national ban for the first time in 40 years.

Trump imposed his priorities on the RNC’s platform committee as he seeks to steer clear during his campaign of strict abortion language, even while taking credit for setting up the 2022 reversal of Roe v. Wade by the Supreme Court. Trump appointed three of the six justices who voted in the majority to overturn the 1973 precedent that established a national right to have an abortion.

I saw this story which is where I got that...
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Re: Does Joe Biden have the Mental Capacity to be the President of the US?
« Reply #555 on: July 13, 2024, 05:07:04 PM »
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Re: Does Joe Biden have the Mental Capacity to be the President of the US?
« Reply #556 on: July 13, 2024, 05:18:37 PM »
it's what politicians do
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Re: Does Joe Biden have the Mental Capacity to be the President of the US?
« Reply #557 on: July 13, 2024, 06:59:26 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on July 13, 2024, 05:07:04 PM
https://www.factcheck.org/2024/04/trumps-false-claim-about-roe/


He tries to play both sides. 
Exactly. He wants credit from his base for getting rid of Roe, but knows a federal abortion ban is (and most state bans are) a losing issue at the ballot box so he doesn't want to scare people who care about such things into voting for the other guy based on a single issue.

The states that already are solidly in the tank for him are the only ones were getting rid of Roe is seen as a good thing. It's an issue that could be a decisive wedge issue going against him with independents in swing states, which he's trying to avoid.
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Re: Does Joe Biden have the Mental Capacity to be the President of the US?
« Reply #558 on: July 13, 2024, 08:50:07 PM »
he has the mental capacity to avoid it?
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Re: Does Joe Biden have the Mental Capacity to be the President of the US?
« Reply #559 on: July 13, 2024, 10:03:40 PM »
Quote from: MrNubbz on July 13, 2024, 02:04:23 PM
That and seemingly the narrative where people born males wanted to tinkle,change and complete with girls was ushered in with him. Oh and the treasonous horshit at the border as ther people in power implimenting it live in their gated communities
I think that first one predated him. I also find it funny because if you designed a Dem in a lab who would be disconnected from that issue, it would probably looks something like that fella. But it seems unlikely someone super high profile on either side can outrun the more incendiary stuff these days. 

(The last part makes me chuckle because I have a friend who often snaps about the folks in "gates" communities and such. And yet I really hate the gate system in his large apartment complex)
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