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For my macro, Claude was much better. 

Copilot was useless for my macro. 

Chat GPT was mixed. But at the end of the day Claude got it to work. ChatGPT could not. 

Curiosity for the group. If you were hiring for a job and someone handed in a cover letter that seemed like it was mostly written by an LLM, what would you take from that?

I’m one hand, cover letters are most often rote and dull, and don’t add all that much. On the other, if you ask for that sort of thing, maybe you did want them to actually do it? Or maybe you all work in fields that discourage cover letters anyway.

Oh and I think I've discussed this before, but the quality of candidate we've been getting from GenZ is extremely high.  These are really smart kids, and very motivated. 

Both my stepsons are Gen Z and I would consider them right in line with what you described.  My wife, OTOH, wishes fervently that her place of business would quit hiring Gen Z for their MA's because they have endless problems with them.  My contact with students where I work is pretty limited, but they seem to be a mixed bag.  Some of them strike me how you describe, some of them strike me how my wife describes.  I suppose there's a somewhat normal distribution across any demographic.  

The sample population is a huge factor here, though.  Where you work, I'd expect the quality of candidate to be higher than the average population because of the nature of your work.  Where my wife works, MA's (medical assistants) don't tend to necessarily be that educated or....the cream of the crop, let's say.  So she's getting a different demographic within that larger demographic than you get, I'd wager.  

Both my stepsons are Gen Z and I would consider them right in line with what you described.  My wife, OTOH, wishes fervently that her place of business would quit hiring Gen Z for their MA's because they have endless problems with them.  My contact with students where I work is pretty limited, but they seem to be a mixed bag.  Some of them strike me how you describe, some of them strike me how my wife describes.  I suppose there's a somewhat normal distribution across any demographic. 

The sample population is a huge factor here, though.  Where you work, I'd expect the quality of candidate to be higher than the average population because of the nature of your work.  Where my wife works, MA's (medical assistants) don't tend to necessarily be that educated or....the cream of the crop, let's say.  So she's getting a different demographic within that larger demographic than you get, I'd wager. 

Definitely a valid point.

I'm mostly comparing them to their millennial counterparts we were hiring 10 years ago into the same types of positions.  And for the most part, those millennials were all quality candidates as well, just as you'd expect to be applying at a company like mine.  The process tends to weed out the "lesser" candidates before they ever get in for interviews.

But I do think there's some generational bounce-back and where some of the millennials really tended to want to sit back, let others take charge, and although I wouldn't describe them as "lazy" they just had different expectations for what an office workplace environment was going to be.  It could cause friction at times.  

I'm not really seeing that at all with GenZ so far.

Curiosity for the group. If you were hiring for a job and someone handed in a cover letter that seemed like it was mostly written by an LLM, what would you take from that?

I’m one hand, cover letters are most often rote and dull, and don’t add all that much. On the other, if you ask for that sort of thing, maybe you did want them to actually do it? Or maybe you all work in fields that discourage cover letters anyway.

If I was job hunting today I would use an AI generate cover letter and resume.  Most employers use a screening site for submitted resume and I figure I am more likely to get through this screening with AI's help rather than my own ability to hit key words and phrases to get through the wall. 

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AI is definitely changing the way I work. I’m no longer doing things by hand … I just tell the AI to resize all the columns , update formulas, all kinds of things that I’m able to do, but just don’t want to.

I'm woefully behind the times as far as using AI, for someone who knows as much about AI as I do.  I know the theory and how to instantiate/train models much better than I know how to do anything with it in the real world.  We all have Copilot on our work laptops, but I have no idea if it's free or paid.  

When it comes to things like resizing columns, quickly changing a formula, etc.....I think it would take me longer to tell an AI what I want than it takes me to just do it real quick.  So, as usual, I resist change and fall behind.