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847badgerfan

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Court ruling on transfers
« on: December 13, 2023, 04:41:51 PM »
I said the sport will be dead in 5-6 years. I'm going 2-3 now.

Thanks, Ohio.

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Re: Court ruling on transfers
« Reply #1 on: December 13, 2023, 04:50:28 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on December 13, 2023, 04:41:51 PM
I said the sport will be dead in 5-6 years. I'm going 2-3 now.

Thanks, Ohio.


its a sad day for college sports
i guess its a great day for student athletes
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Re: Court ruling on transfers
« Reply #2 on: December 13, 2023, 06:38:02 PM »
I think it will outlast me just in different form. 
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Re: Court ruling on transfers
« Reply #3 on: December 13, 2023, 06:47:02 PM »
Quote from: Benthere2 on December 13, 2023, 04:50:28 PM
its a sad day for college sports
i guess its a great day for student athletes
I think there is a short-term / long-term issue here for the athletes.

This will disincentivise schools to develop athletes. Why bother if you could lose the kid at any time.
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Re: Court ruling on transfers
« Reply #4 on: December 13, 2023, 07:13:24 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on December 13, 2023, 04:41:51 PM
I said the sport will be dead in 5-6 years. I'm going 2-3 now.

Thanks, Ohio.


I can't speak to all states but in some recruitment is going on at the High School levels big time and a blind eye is being turned to it.
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Re: Court ruling on transfers
« Reply #5 on: December 14, 2023, 08:04:11 AM »
Quote from: medinabuckeye1 on December 13, 2023, 06:47:02 PM
I think there is a short-term / long-term issue here for the athletes.

This will disincentivise schools to develop athletes. Why bother if you could lose the kid at any time.
Most will stay, some will leave.  I don't think a lot more will leave if this ruling holds.  
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Re: Court ruling on transfers
« Reply #6 on: December 14, 2023, 11:45:43 AM »
Disagree.  Why not at least put your name out there every year, just to see what kind of NIL you can get
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Re: Court ruling on transfers
« Reply #7 on: December 14, 2023, 11:58:01 AM »
A lot leave now, at least we think they do, it might really be under 10% for most programs.  Maybe that goes to 15% is this ruling holds?
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Re: Court ruling on transfers
« Reply #8 on: December 14, 2023, 04:56:16 PM »
Texas' #2 QB entered the portal today because he was worried he wouldn't have a spot if he waited until later.  So even the CFP isn't incentive for non-starters to stick around.  I don't blame him, he's not wrong.  But the system is so screwed up.  The one thing I thought is that eventually as things level out, and guys have used their free transfer, it might get better.  Now this is a year to year thing for everyone on the roster
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Re: Court ruling on transfers
« Reply #9 on: December 14, 2023, 05:16:20 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on December 14, 2023, 08:04:11 AM
Most will stay, some will leave.  I don't think a lot more will leave if this ruling holds. 

I disagree, and I think it's going to be exacerbated by both sides, kids and coaches.  We're already starting to see significantly less emphasis on high school recruiting because coaches are getting wise to the fact that you shouldn't take up a roster spot and have to connect him to NIL $ for an unproven kid who hasn't shown squat at the next level when you can invest those resources into a kid Western Michigan developed for you.  Brian Kelly gives a lot of lip service to mainly recruiting the high school ranks and using the portal to ice the cake, but the trend at his own program is already shifting away from that.  It'll have to.  You're responsible for getting the best kids you can, now, because you've got to beat Alabama and then not get embarrassed by UGA again in the SECCG.  He's mining the portal for every kid our meager little NIL economy can muster.  And every kid who saw the writing on the wall--or thinks they saw the writing on the wall--is transferring out, meaning he has other spots to fill where it's far too late to start developing a relation with a high school recruit.  As demand ramps up, so will the transfers.  It's all but inevitable.  We're quickly headed for the Wild West, except that for me we're already there.  I've noted before, I already don't know half the kids on our team, where they came from, and this year I looked around for kids from the previous year I'd gotten familiar with, but *poof*.....they gone.  
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Re: Court ruling on transfers
« Reply #10 on: December 15, 2023, 07:10:34 AM »
Seems kind of one sided.  Should college athletes be required to enter into contracts with their employer with buy outs? 
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Re: Court ruling on transfers
« Reply #11 on: December 15, 2023, 07:21:00 AM »
Quote from: Temp430 on December 15, 2023, 07:10:34 AM
Seems kind of one sided.  Should college athletes be required to enter into contracts with their employer with buy outs?
Spot on.
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Re: Court ruling on transfers
« Reply #12 on: December 20, 2023, 01:28:25 PM »
Quote from: medinabuckeye1 on December 13, 2023, 06:47:02 PM

This will disincentivise schools to develop athletes. Why bother if you could lose the kid at any time.

Agree. A big worry. So who will develop the players if they're already scrolling through other options on arriving to your campus?

Player development was already a characteristic weakness during certain tenures at certain programs - Sark at Washington and Kiffin at USC for example, who both offset this weakness with strong recruiting.

Conversely, player development is a strength and lifeblood at programs like Wisconsin, Iowa, and Oregon State (under Riley and Jonathan Smith).

If development slides at known "developer" schools, won't the portal eventually be saturated with talent that is otherwise undeveloped? The skills positions (Jordan Addison) will be better off than the lineman who require more time to build as effective lineman. But who might enter the portal still raw and waiting to be developed at a school who wants everybody ready-made?

Us diehard college football followers are sensing this:





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Re: Court ruling on transfers
« Reply #13 on: December 20, 2023, 01:31:45 PM »
In 5 years?  It already is
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