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MikeDeTiger

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Re: Conference Draft
« Reply #112 on: August 10, 2026, 02:57:19 PM »
PAC leadership should have grabbed Texas and Oklahoma when they had their chance


TBF, they tried.  Back around 2010, 2011, something like that.  They tried to do the PAC 16.  iirc, UT and OU were interested.  Somebody gummed up the works, though, can't remember who.  Hooky was pretty irate the deal fell through, as I recall.  

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Re: Conference Draft
« Reply #113 on: August 10, 2026, 03:14:06 PM »

TBF, they tried.  Back around 2010, 2011, something like that.  They tried to do the PAC 16.  iirc, UT and OU were interested.  Somebody gummed up the works, though, can't remember who.  Hooky was pretty irate the deal fell through, as I recall. 
There's a lot that happened, and we've re-hashed it a bunch on this site and others.

Short version-- when it seemed like the B12 was going to implode, with Nebraska headed to the B1G, six of the B12 leftover schools started negotiating with the PAC to create a soft landing spot.  Texas, Texas A&M, Colorado, Oklahoma, Oklahome State, and Texas Tech.  UT athletic director DeLoss Dodds was one of the architects of that deal.  All 6 of those schools had official invitations.  But in the final hours, Texas A&M administration balked.  They didn't really want to go to the PAC, and indeed they'd always eyed the SEC and figured if they were going to make a change, they'd rather head east.  So they decided against joining the PAC.  That caused a delay in the deal, and gave the B12 enough time to come up with a new deal that made the money decent enough for Texas and OU and the others to stay.  

In the meantime Baylor officials began getting stirred up, and some of their politicians in the Texas state legislature started talking about trying to exert pressure on UT and A&M and Texas Tech, to get Baylor an invitation instead of Colorado.  Colorado had long since been eyeing the PAC anyway, a lot of their students and alums are from California anyway, and so they went ahead and accepted the invitation before anybody could maneuver Baylor into the deal instead of the Buffs.

Ultimately the B12's new contract terms sufficed for Texas and OU, and the B12 was "saved" from destruction.

That was the 2009/2010 round of realignment. 

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Re: Conference Draft
« Reply #114 on: August 10, 2026, 03:26:29 PM »
I remember how monumental that all felt.....to think the offers were legit on the table and schools only had to accept them.  Even the relatively minor movement once the dust settled of Nebraska going to the Big Ten and Colorado going to the PAC seemed huge.  

I never would've guessed back then that such major conference realignment propositions would make me roll my eyes and say "It must be Tuesday."  

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Re: Conference Draft
« Reply #115 on: August 10, 2026, 03:36:29 PM »
Baylor is a pain in the ass.
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Re: Conference Draft
« Reply #116 on: August 10, 2026, 03:38:34 PM »
yup, could easily had 3 conferences with 16 instead of two with 18.

I kinda wish it woulda happened in hindsight
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Re: Conference Draft
« Reply #117 on: August 10, 2026, 03:39:34 PM »
I wish none of it happened.
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Re: Conference Draft
« Reply #118 on: August 10, 2026, 03:40:41 PM »
agreed, for sure but,...................

I'd have much rather the big 12 be the 3rd 16-team conference by pluckin USC and another from the PAC - kept UNL, UT, A&M, and OU together
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Re: Conference Draft
« Reply #119 on: August 10, 2026, 04:22:37 PM »
agreed, for sure but,...................

I'd have much rather the big 12 be the 3rd 16-team conference by pluckin USC and another from the PAC - kept UNL, UT, A&M, and OU together
Yup.  I don't give a rat's ass about any team in the former PAC 12 other than USC.  Adding USC to the B12 would have been fun.  But unlike snooty  Hooky who always dreamed of rubbing elbows with the snobby west coast elitists, I had no desire whatsoever to join the PAC and am glad it fell through.

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Re: Conference Draft
« Reply #120 on: August 10, 2026, 08:11:50 PM »
OAM is pretty well-positioned...

...which might not be surprising since I think he was probably thinking about this a long way ahead of a lot of the other participants.

I am.

But I also had no idea who anyone would pick, how many people would do it, and I went last on purpose.  We didn't even snake draft to make it fair.
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Re: Conference Draft
« Reply #121 on: August 10, 2026, 08:14:11 PM »
jgvol
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Georgia
Florida
Alabama

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West Virginia
Indiana
VA Tech

OAM
Texas
LSU
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« Reply #122 on: August 10, 2026, 08:15:13 PM »
@jgvol next
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Re: Conference Draft
« Reply #123 on: August 10, 2026, 08:33:58 PM »
Looking out into the future here...

Does CO border AZ? Does UT border NM?

Figure we need a ruling on this before teams get there...

I'm leaning no and no.  But majority rules.
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Re: Conference Draft
« Reply #124 on: August 10, 2026, 10:04:27 PM »
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Re: Conference Draft
« Reply #125 on: August 10, 2026, 11:05:38 PM »
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jgvol
Notre Dame
Michigan
Michigan St.
Wisconsin
Iowa

847
Tennessee
Georgia
Florida
Alabama

MDT
Ohio St.
West Virginia
Indiana
VA Tech

OAM
Texas
LSU
Ole Miss
Auburn

 

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