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Re: College World Series
« Reply #98 on: June 25, 2019, 05:54:29 PM »
It sounds like Isaiah Page will get the start tonight. I'm an amateur, and a bandwagoning one at that, but he is not one of the team's three best pitchers. I figured the start woul'd go to Criswell, given his effectiveness in closing last night on so few pitches (10?). I'm sure Criswell will be available to close. I guess I was expecting Kaufman to be ready to go again, but perhaps that was hopeful. I'm sure Bakich has better information and perspective, so this is just a controversial call to see play out.
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Re: College World Series
« Reply #99 on: June 25, 2019, 06:05:13 PM »
Michigan has had clutch postseason pitching, but 2-out RBIs have been arguably equal keys to their run to this point. Also: they've been great at forcing high pitch counts from opponents with many at-bats needing 8-10 (or 10+) pitches to finish. Here's betting they'll need more of those last two factors tonight.
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Re: College World Series
« Reply #100 on: June 25, 2019, 07:48:43 PM »
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Re: College World Series
« Reply #101 on: June 25, 2019, 10:56:24 PM »
Michigan basically conceded tonight's game by playing a bunch of pitchers they don't normally play since Vanderbilt started arguably their top pitcher and so they could rest their other two top pitchers an extra day. We'll see if the strategy pays off tomorrow....
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Re: College World Series
« Reply #102 on: June 25, 2019, 11:24:47 PM »
We'll see.

I believe you should always play the pitchers/lineup you think gives you the best chance of winning TODAY.  I'll certainly agree that if your top pitchers need rest and might be put in harm's way by playing them, then you should absolutely rest them and avoid risk to their bodies.  I don't know enough about Michigan's pitching rotation to comment on whether or not that's what happened.  

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Re: College World Series
« Reply #103 on: June 25, 2019, 11:31:08 PM »
luxury of winning game #1 is that you don't need to win #2 vs their ace

rest up and go for #3
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Re: College World Series
« Reply #104 on: June 25, 2019, 11:33:16 PM »
Risky gamble.  Like I said, I believe you should ALWAYS play your best lineup to win TODAY.

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Re: College World Series
« Reply #105 on: June 25, 2019, 11:50:25 PM »
Risky gamble is trying to beat their ace - long odds
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Re: College World Series
« Reply #106 on: June 25, 2019, 11:56:17 PM »

The Raptors once employed a similar strategy with the Cavs in the Playoffs. If they got down big early, they'd just throw in the towel and save their energy for the next game. 

They pushed it to a game seven with that strategy, but ultimately lost the series. 
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Re: College World Series
« Reply #107 on: June 26, 2019, 12:23:41 AM »
Quote from: utee94 on June 25, 2019, 11:24:47 PM
We'll see.

I believe you should always play the pitchers/lineup you think gives you the best chance of winning TODAY.  I'll certainly agree that if your top pitchers need rest and might be put in harm's way by playing them, then you should absolutely rest them and avoid risk to their bodies.  I don't know enough about Michigan's pitching rotation to comment on whether or not that's what happened. 


Michigan has 3 starters worthy of this stage but zero in the bullpen. And the only one who could have started today also closed last night. Tomorrow, we think we can play two of them.
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Re: College World Series
« Reply #108 on: June 26, 2019, 12:40:02 AM »
Quote from: FearlessF on June 25, 2019, 11:50:25 PM
Risky gamble is trying to beat their ace - long odds

They lost 4-1 tonight and left several on base.  It's not like he shut them down.  Throwing better pitchers and allowing fewer than 4 runs would have gone a long way toward ending it in 2. 

Always, always try to win the game you're playing today.  Never "concede" a game right off the bat.
But WTF do I know about college baseball and the CWS?  ~???
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Re: College World Series
« Reply #109 on: June 26, 2019, 01:23:43 AM »
It is one of those things that will look brilliant if it works, but bone headed if it doesn't. 
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Re: College World Series
« Reply #110 on: June 26, 2019, 08:58:24 AM »
Ya, I don't get Michigan pitching the bull pen last night in place of one of their aces Criswell or Kauffmann,  What are the chances Michigan sees Rocker tonight as a reliever?  He only pitched 6 innings last night.  And the weather in Omaha tonight looks stormy.  The game could be postponed then, Rocker. 
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Re: College World Series
« Reply #111 on: June 26, 2019, 09:36:26 AM »
After more reflection, I don't think this was any kind of ballsy choice by Bakich. It was his only choice.

Kaufman couldn't safely go. Henry's season is now done. And Criswell had closed game 1, so he wasn't realistically going to be able to pull off 9 innings and there was a good chance the bullpen would blow it against Vandy's bats.

And as we've said the bullpen after those three starters is very mediocre. Wasting Criswell's last half game when you know beforehand that he can't finish 9 innings would have been throwing away BOTH games 2 and 3 to a subpar bullpen.

Now, we can pitch both Kaufman and Criswell for a half game. Holding off to let that happen was the only way to guarantee 9 innings of championship-caliber pitching for one of the two remaining games.
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