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OrangeAfroMan

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Re: Coaching changes
« Reply #658 on: November 28, 2021, 12:55:11 PM »
Michigan just scored again....
“The Swamp is where Gators live.  We feel comfortable there, but we hope our opponents feel tentative. A swamp is hot and sticky and can be dangerous." - Steve Spurrier

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Re: Coaching changes
« Reply #659 on: November 28, 2021, 12:57:14 PM »
That was Samford. 
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Re: Coaching changes
« Reply #660 on: November 28, 2021, 02:23:03 PM »
Dumb move.

The Ragin' Cajuns are WAY better than the Gators.
Who pays better?

Is Aranda locked down?  I don't see his name bounced about much.  I have a notion Kiffin is on the market.

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Re: Coaching changes
« Reply #661 on: November 28, 2021, 02:30:59 PM »
Who pays better?


Florida is an instant payday, followed by a quick firing if you don't win the division every year. 

At Louisiana you might coach there 20+ years with statues built in your honor. 
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Re: Coaching changes
« Reply #662 on: November 28, 2021, 02:35:34 PM »
I personally would go to UF from ULL given a chance back in the day when I was aspirational.  And yes, you could get fired in 3-4 years, it may even be probable.  Mullen was there for four years and won one divisional title, and had three NY6 bowls in four years. 

He was fired for some lip, some apparent indifference to recruiting, and going 6-6.

I'm not sure it really was his fault, other than a few casual comments.


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Re: Coaching changes
« Reply #663 on: November 28, 2021, 02:37:12 PM »
Florida is an instant payday, followed by a quick firing if you don't win the division every year.

At Louisiana you might coach there 20+ years with statues built in your honor.
How many people will see a statue in Lafayette, LA?  

Maybe he wants to live in a place where you don't need subtitles to understand people.  He's not a Louisiana person.  He just needed to take a piss break, going east on I-10 to get to Gainesville.  Lafayette served its purpose.  

Hell, I myself got a blizzard at the Dairy Queen there my last drive cross-country this past summer.
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Re: Coaching changes
« Reply #664 on: November 28, 2021, 02:40:13 PM »
He'd be long gone before his statue got torn down by a future vegan society, for being a meat eater. 
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Re: Coaching changes
« Reply #665 on: November 28, 2021, 02:46:29 PM »
Who pays better?

Is Aranda locked down?  I don't see his name bounced about much.  I have a notion Kiffin is on the market.

no one is locked down

Aranda will be a hot commodity if Baylor gets the win and the conference championship over the Pokes and the Mullet
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Re: Coaching changes
« Reply #666 on: November 28, 2021, 02:46:33 PM »
He'd have something like a 5+ year contract for $35-40 million, most of which is payable.

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Re: Coaching changes
« Reply #667 on: November 28, 2021, 02:47:25 PM »
He'd be long gone before his statue got torn down by a future vegan society, for being a meat eater.
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Re: Coaching changes
« Reply #668 on: November 28, 2021, 03:23:20 PM »
Florida hires Louisiana's Billy Napier as coach: Gators swipe one of most in-demand names - CBSSports.com
Florida hires Louisiana's Billy Napier as coach: Gators swipe one of most in-demand names - CBSSports.com

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Re: Coaching changes
« Reply #669 on: November 28, 2021, 03:34:24 PM »
The take of Riley having a low ceiling is ... interesting.

But the nature of the sport is fascination with what we don't see, and that powers a lot of interest.

No....let me clarify, because you'd be right to raise your eyebrows if that were my opinion.  

I'm not saying Riley has a low ceiling.  I'm saying there's a decent chance we know what Riley's ceiling is....and it isn't what LSU is going to want.  There's a chance he might not get LSU to another NC--nothing about his playoff appearances inspire confidence there, although I think they did take UGA to the wire that year UGA and Bama played for the NC (I might be misremembering).  The ceiling is probably pretty high with Riley, but is it high enough?  Some reason to think it might not be.  

Napier on the other hand could flame out spectacularly.  His floor would be significantly lower.  No guarantees that leading some stout Ragin Cajun teams translates to anything similar at LSU.  And his ceiling is unknown.  It's possible he could take what works at Lafayette (I'm not calling them Louisiana, I'm just not) and with better resources and recruits at LSU light the SEC's ass on fire.  Or....he could flame out, or anywhere in between.  

I think there's pros and cons to both.  All I mean here is that my personality is geared towards rolling the dice with a Napier or a Fickell than bringing in a known quantity with reason to think they'll be very good but maybe never great.  

That's just by way of explanation, Riley has of course now firmly denied interest in the job....for whatever that's worth.  You won't see me complaining if he did come though.  I don't want my preferences to be mistaken for pessimism of the job Riley could probably do.  I'd be rather happy if we could pull him in.  Although I still don't know why you'd leave OU for LSU.  

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Re: Coaching changes
« Reply #670 on: November 28, 2021, 03:42:38 PM »
Riley's had all the pluses an LSU would have and he's had fewer obstacles to the NC than he'd have at LSU.  @MikeDeTiger isn't making some bizarre point here.
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Re: Coaching changes
« Reply #671 on: November 28, 2021, 03:45:50 PM »
Florida hires Louisiana's Billy Napier as coach: Gators swipe one of most in-demand names - CBSSports.com
Florida hires Louisiana's Billy Napier as coach: Gators swipe one of most in-demand names - CBSSports.com

Good for him.  Probably not good for us.  Florida got the coach I would've picked for us, if I were in charge.  Dude practically begged LSU for the gig and they weren't interested.  Something similar happened one time....some guy named Spurrier interviewed for the LSU job and didn't get it, by his own admission he never forgot the slight, and he spent the next long while running up the score on us, making sure nobody in Baton Rouge ever forgot what they missed out on.  This better not be the sequel.  

From what I gather, Woody is a big-name hunter, and Napier is not in his wheelhouse.  He wants a Jimbo or a Riley (no thx on the first one).  He brought Pedersen to UW and Jimbo to A&M, and his first two LSU hires have been similar.  He's brought Kim Mulkey to women's basketball (doesn't get any bigger than that) and Johnson to LSU baseball (maybe not quite the same thing, but had a great track record at UA).  For better or worse, I don't know that people like Napier get the same consideration as "name" candidates with that guy.  Woody has a history of winning the press conference.  I'd rather he win the hire.  

 

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