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Mdot21

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Re: Coaching changes
« Reply #504 on: November 21, 2021, 02:05:35 PM »
He's already there
if you see the USC chatter- these guys actually think they have a shot at getting him. 

I don't think he's coming back to college, and IF he did, doubt he'd take the USC job. They just would not pour the money into the program that he'd demand imo.

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Re: Coaching changes
« Reply #505 on: November 21, 2021, 02:08:01 PM »
Disagree.

Though Mullen’s time at Florida cratered with shocking suddenness, I absolutely believe Dan Mullen had long proven himself as one of the better (top 20% nationally?) head coaches during his 9 years of piloting a stable tenure at Mississippi State, 7 of which were winning seasons.

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Re: Coaching changes
« Reply #506 on: November 21, 2021, 02:08:53 PM »
He's already there
is Dan Mullen his OC?
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Re: Coaching changes
« Reply #507 on: November 21, 2021, 02:27:32 PM »
I'd rank the jobs like this....

1) Florida - most talent rich state, close to GA & Carolinas which also have tons of talent, great fan support, stadium, facilities, environment, campus, etc.., plus they play in SEC E -the easier of the two divisions at the moment. drawbacks: other big-time programs in the state in Miami & FSU- so can't lock-up all that talent.

2) LSU - tons of in-state talent and no other game in town, close to talent rich FL & TX as well. great fan support, stadium, facilities, environment, campus, etc.., drawbacks: have to play Bama in the West. Somewhat unrealistic fan expectations.

3) USC - this job sucks, imo.
Good jobs? Florida canned a guy a year after winning the SEC East, LSU Shanghaied Orgeron out of town two years after winning a NC, and USC frogmarched a guy a year after winning the Pac South. 
1919, 20, 21, 28, 29, 31, 34, 35, 36, 37, 42, 44
WWH: 1952, 54, 55, 57, 58, 60, 61, 62, 63, 65, 67, 68, 70, 72, 74, 75
1979, 81, 82, 84, 87, 94, 98
2001, 02, 04, 05, 06, 07, 08, 09, 10, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19

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Re: Coaching changes
« Reply #508 on: November 21, 2021, 02:34:31 PM »
perfectly good jobs
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Re: Coaching changes
« Reply #509 on: November 21, 2021, 02:53:46 PM »
A good job is Nebraska or Michigan where you get paid out the ass for a while, and then if you don't do anything for a number of years they just restructure your deal. Not where you get canned if you aren't Saban. 
1919, 20, 21, 28, 29, 31, 34, 35, 36, 37, 42, 44
WWH: 1952, 54, 55, 57, 58, 60, 61, 62, 63, 65, 67, 68, 70, 72, 74, 75
1979, 81, 82, 84, 87, 94, 98
2001, 02, 04, 05, 06, 07, 08, 09, 10, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19

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Re: Coaching changes
« Reply #510 on: November 21, 2021, 02:58:24 PM »
A good job is Nebraska or Michigan where you get paid out the ass for a while, and then if you don't do anything for a number of years they just restructure your deal. Not where you get canned if you aren't Saban.
kinda agree lol. Ohio State used to be a job like this...they gave Cooper 13 years of going 2-10-1 vs Michigan. Do you think they'd still do the same thing today? 

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Re: Coaching changes
« Reply #511 on: November 21, 2021, 03:00:51 PM »
Mullen's buyout is $12 million and would've been lessened had Florida made the decision after the 2022 season.

Mullen's buyout figure ranks No. 8 in the SEC.

Florida athletic director Scott Stricklin and Mullen agreed to the buyout numbers upon signing, and the total was not altered after the Florida coach agreed to a three-year contract extension with a raise during the offseason after the Gators won the SEC East last fall.
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Re: Coaching changes
« Reply #512 on: November 21, 2021, 03:30:17 PM »
kinda agree lol. Ohio State used to be a job like this...they gave Cooper 13 years of going 2-10-1 vs Michigan. Do you think they'd still do the same thing today?


They'd burn through at least 5 HCs if they endured another stretch like that in the series. 

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1979, 81, 82, 84, 87, 94, 98
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Re: Coaching changes
« Reply #513 on: November 21, 2021, 03:33:53 PM »
 Ohio State  gave Cooper 13 years of going 2-10-1 vs Michigan. 
Shaved at least a year off my life,I don't blame him I blame the guy who hired him.
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Re: Coaching changes
« Reply #515 on: November 21, 2021, 04:18:19 PM »
7 is OSU's record for total losses in one season, attributed to Luke Fickel. 
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1979, 81, 82, 84, 87, 94, 98
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Re: Coaching changes
« Reply #516 on: November 21, 2021, 04:19:56 PM »
and Luke Fickel seems to be a top candidate
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Re: Coaching changes
« Reply #517 on: November 21, 2021, 04:38:07 PM »
I'd let Mullen be the OC, Muschamp be the DC, and have Spurrier as a figurehead. He could borrow Bowden's old safari hat.

Are there any career coordinators anymore?  I feel like there were a lot back in the day, but now, everyone has to try their hand at being THE guy.  Why not just be great at what you do?

$$$ I guess.
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