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Re: Coaching changes
« Reply #392 on: November 18, 2021, 10:57:56 AM »
the Vols are the only team to score 2 TDs on Georgia and the 2nd TD was scored with less than 4 minutes left in the game
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« Reply #393 on: November 18, 2021, 11:00:07 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on November 18, 2021, 10:55:16 AM
I think OSU could well score in the 30s on UGA.

Alabama might as well.
OSU is the one team I see in the country- where if they are clicking on all cylinders- they can drop 40+ on anyone- even Georgia. 

They have 3 WR's that will all be 1st round picks. They have one of the best true freshman RB's I've seen in a long time- a guy that was an OMERGG FIVE STARZZZ for a reason- dude has serious jets, moves, and catches the ball extremely well. They have a good OL, good TE group, and they have a really good young QB who has the arm talent to make every throw in CJ Stroud.

IF they are hitting on all cylinders- they just have so much firepower it's hard to stop. You can't cover all 3 of their WR's and they have a RB who can hit the home-run and can also catch the football. It's just hard to stop. You have to get to Stroud with the pass rush and hope Ryan Day has a bad day calling plays. Only shot you've got.
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Re: Coaching changes
« Reply #394 on: November 18, 2021, 11:12:51 AM »
One reason it's tougher to score on UGA is the kind of offense they run, they tend to control clock time, so even an OSU might not hit 40.  They COULD certainly, but it's tougher just because you get fewer plays than against some other opponents.  Their TOP is not extraordinary but it's decent when the game is in doubt.

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« Reply #395 on: November 18, 2021, 11:21:24 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on November 18, 2021, 11:12:51 AM
One reason it's tougher to score on UGA is the kind of offense they run, they tend to control clock time, so even an OSU might not hit 40.  They COULD certainly, but it's tougher just because you get fewer plays than against some other opponents.  Their TOP is not extraordinary but it's decent when the game is in doubt.
yeah I should've mentioned this as well- you have to do this as well- run the ball, convert 3rd downs and control the clock on OSU- AND you have to get to Stroud with the pass rush AND you have to hope Ryan Day has a bad day at the office calling plays.

Not many teams can do this to them. Georgia is one of the few.
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Re: Coaching changes
« Reply #396 on: November 18, 2021, 11:53:43 AM »
Huskers did a good job vs the Bucks.

Sacked Stroud twice, hurried him 5 times, picked him off twice, forced a Stroud fumble but the Bucks recovered

allowed only 3 yards per carry on 30 rushes

a measly 26 points

I think Michigan's defense is better than Nebraska's and of course Georgia's defense is much better than either

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Re: Coaching changes
« Reply #397 on: November 18, 2021, 02:02:44 PM »
I know the Dawg D has been called "generational", and I agree it's good, but I think a few folks on ESPN have gone over the top with it.  They have had quite a few fourth down stops deep in their own territory because the opponents were trying to get back in it and needed the TD instead of 3.
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« Reply #398 on: November 18, 2021, 03:57:30 PM »
The Badgers are No. 1 nationally in rushing defense (60.1 yards per game), total defense (216.3 yards per game), third-down defense (23% conversion for opponents), and No. 2 in pass defense (155.7 yards per game) and scoring defense (14.6 points per game). Again, that's No. 1 and 2 NATIONALLY in all those stats.

In the yards-per-play stat, Wisconsin is giving up just 3.72 (No. 1 nationally). Nebraska's defense, having a solid year, is averaging giving up 5.08 per play (31st)


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of course the Badgers haven't had to try to slow down the Buckeyes YET.

and the Badger's D vs Notre Dame(242yds) and Michigan(365yds) wasn't bad in losses
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Re: Coaching changes
« Reply #399 on: November 18, 2021, 06:15:13 PM »
Quote from: Mdot21 on November 11, 2021, 10:23:39 PM
Tucker is legit.

MSU was a dumpster fire when he took that thing over. Year one he beats Michigan in their own house. Year 2 he beats Michigan again and has a Heisman candidate RB and his team in the top 10.

He would kick ass and take names at LSU.

I believe you.  My comment was meant only to express my disagreement with Tate's preferred route to a new coach, i.e., he wants a "legacy hire."  

Any coaching search should be conducted with as wide a net as possible, and I disagree with ruling out any white coaches due to the fact they don't check enough of Tate's boxes.  That crap can GTFO.

A guy like Tucker can earn a job like that on his own merits if he wanted it.  You don't have to try to shoehorn him in because of his ethnicity, like he can't get the job any other way.  That's disrespectful to his coaching ability.    
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« Reply #400 on: November 18, 2021, 09:53:48 PM »
I think from an optics sense, it's important to recruits and fans to prove you at least want to play with the big boys.  MSU decided not to do that with Saban, and they suffered through back to back terrible regimes.  The difference between MSU and the helmet schools is that MSU has to get the hire right.  UM, OSU and PSU just can't get the hire wrong.  They got this hire right, and they are sending the right message.  Is he overpaid?  Probably.  Is the extra money worth removing the risk of getting it "right" for the third straight hire?  Maybe, we'll see.
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« Reply #401 on: November 18, 2021, 10:54:05 PM »
keeping the head guy is one thing, paying the top assistants stupid money doesn't always keep them around.  They sometimes leave to take a head coaching job.
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« Reply #402 on: November 19, 2021, 12:39:02 AM »
Quote from: ELA on November 18, 2021, 09:53:48 PM
I think from an optics sense, it's important to recruits and fans to prove you at least want to play with the big boys.  MSU decided not to do that with Saban, and they suffered through back to back terrible regimes.  The difference between MSU and the helmet schools is that MSU has to get the hire right.  UM, OSU and PSU just can't get the hire wrong.  They got this hire right, and they are sending the right message.  Is he overpaid?  Probably.  Is the extra money worth removing the risk of getting it "right" for the third straight hire?  Maybe, we'll see.
Same with Purdue. Two bad hires in a row (Hope, Hazell) put the program on life support. Brohm came in and revitalized the program. It hasn't been perfect, but when you're climbing out of the cellar, it rarely is. But they had to prove they'd reward success and not cheap out. 

One can argue that 2019 and 2020 didn't provide great ROI. But if they'd let him walk, what are the odds you can find anyone willing to take over the rebuild process who also has the ability to actually rebuild?
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« Reply #403 on: November 19, 2021, 12:51:13 AM »
...and if he winds up sucking, you can always give him the ole restructured contract, like Harbaugh and Frost. 
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Re: Coaching changes
« Reply #404 on: November 19, 2021, 07:48:41 AM »
Quote from: Mdot21 on November 18, 2021, 11:00:07 AM
OSU is the one team I see in the country- where if they are clicking on all cylinders- they can drop 40+ on anyone- even Georgia.

They have 3 WR's that will all be 1st round picks. They have one of the best true freshman RB's I've seen in a long time- a guy that was an OMERGG FIVE STARZZZ for a reason- dude has serious jets, moves, and catches the ball extremely well. They have a good OL, good TE group, and they have a really good young QB who has the arm talent to make every throw in CJ Stroud.

IF they are hitting on all cylinders- they just have so much firepower it's hard to stop. You can't cover all 3 of their WR's and they have a RB who can hit the home-run and can also catch the football. It's just hard to stop. You have to get to Stroud with the pass rush and hope Ryan Day has a bad day calling plays. Only shot you've got.
Jonathon Taylor wasn't that long ago.
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Re: Coaching changes
« Reply #405 on: November 19, 2021, 10:42:11 AM »
Lane Kiffin reportedly interested in the Miami job. 
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