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Hawkinole

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Re: Coaching changes
« Reply #266 on: November 14, 2021, 08:19:59 PM »
Kansas went for a real head coach this time. Lance Leipold is developing players and teaching them how to win. Another Wisconsin Whitewater alum who learned to win games and is now teaching others. Nearly knocked off Oklahoma, and this weekend defeated smaller fry Texas.
He won national championships 6 years out of 8 at Whitewater
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« Reply #267 on: November 14, 2021, 08:27:35 PM »
He and Chris Creighton were my 2a and 2b behind Luke Fickel, when Dantonio retired.  I've been pleasantly surprised by Tucker.  My only concern with Leipold,was his age.
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Re: Coaching changes
« Reply #268 on: November 14, 2021, 08:29:10 PM »
It feels like it SHOULD be a good job, but only one coach has won there in the past two decades
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Re: Coaching changes
« Reply #269 on: November 14, 2021, 09:35:31 PM »
Quote from: MaximumSam on November 14, 2021, 04:47:43 PM
Sounds like Jimmy Lake getting the mercy blade at Washington. Washington, LSU, USC now open.
Is that because of Lake dragging one of his players away from a potential unsportsmanlike conduct foul in the Oregon game?

Washington's problem is that their fans still think that it's 1992 and they're going to be in the MNC hunt every year. That job is actually quite similar to the Minnesota job (urban campus in a pro town, new stadium), except the Pac-12 is a sham without Southern Cal dominating the other division. 
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Hawkinole

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Re: Coaching changes
« Reply #270 on: November 14, 2021, 10:50:44 PM »
Quote from: ELA on November 14, 2021, 08:29:10 PM
It feels like it SHOULD be a good job, but only one coach has won there in the past two decades
I am sure the pay is good at KU, but it is a not a good FBS job, unless you go there to collect you final big paychecks before retirement.
If you wanted Lance Leipold for MSU, you were light years ahead of the rest of the pack.
The top teams in D-III have extremely high quality coaching.  The FBS has not figured this out.
Lance Leipold needs assistants who can recruit at this level, if he does not already have them, and leave the rest to him.
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Re: Coaching changes
« Reply #271 on: November 14, 2021, 11:02:46 PM »
Quote from: Hawkinole on November 14, 2021, 10:50:44 PM
I am sure the pay is good at KU, but it is a not a good FBS job, unless you go there to collect you final big paychecks before retirement.
If you wanted Lance Leipold for MSU, you were light years ahead of the rest of the pack.
The top teams in D-III have extremely high quality coaching.  The FBS has not figured this out.
Lance Leipold needs assistants who can recruit at this level, if he does not already have them, and leave the rest to him.
That was in reference to Washington, not Kansas.

And Leipold was at Buffalo already when MSU was looking.  He wasn't at UWW still
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Re: Coaching changes
« Reply #272 on: November 15, 2021, 08:10:14 AM »
Florida football in 'wait and see' mode with Dan Mullen (247sports.com)
Florida football in 'wait and see' mode with Dan Mullen (247sports.com)

One Gators insider noted over the weekend that Florida is currently in "wait and see" mode with Mullen and no final decision has been made on his future.

"A whole lot of speculation about Dan Mullen's future at Florida this morning but multiple sources (boosters and athletic department folks) I spoke with last night & this morning say it's still "wait and see." Florida has 2 games left, inc. FSU, & they expect Mullen to coach both," Saturday Down South's Neil Blackmon tweeted Sunday.

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« Reply #273 on: November 15, 2021, 08:49:07 AM »
Tom Allen will be around for the next couple years but there's several offensive assistants at IU that need to go, first and foremost, Nick Sheridan. 
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« Reply #274 on: November 15, 2021, 08:55:49 AM »
Normally, we'd think Florida as a shoe in to beat Mizzou and FSU, but this isn't a normal time for them, and they might well not, which apparently would mean Mullen would be tossed to the side, something unthinkable really a few months back, even a few weeks back.  Mizzou is not very good of course, and FSU started out 0-4 with a loss to "JVST" in that mix, and is 4-2 since.
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« Reply #275 on: November 15, 2021, 09:28:22 AM »
Quote from: LetsGoPeay on November 15, 2021, 08:49:07 AM
Tom Allen will be around for the next couple years but there's several offensive assistants at IU that need to go, first and foremost, Nick Sheridan.
never got the hype with him- or Scot Loeffler. Both seem like definition of mediocre coaches to me.
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« Reply #276 on: November 15, 2021, 09:46:40 AM »
Tom Allen seems to have the Hoosiers playing much better the past couple seasons, and then this season with high expectations, just crapped out

I wouldn't even warm up his seat if I were a Hoosier
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« Reply #277 on: November 15, 2021, 10:01:54 AM »
The offense wasn't great last year. The O-line has been really bad the last two years and that coach definitely needs to go. They got bailed out last year a lot with Penix and Fryfogle having great years. Stevie Scott always found a way to fall forward for a few yards at a time too. They were constantly working with short fields as well as they forced a huge number of turnovers. Now that those factors have been removed or negated the offensive warts have truly come to the forefront. 
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« Reply #278 on: November 15, 2021, 10:04:34 AM »
not all turnovers are lucky, but some are.  Can really influence wins and losses.

offense seems difficult for most teams unless they have a very good O-line and a very good QB

especially in the defensive minded Big 10 and SEC SEC SEC
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Re: Coaching changes
« Reply #279 on: November 15, 2021, 10:13:17 AM »
Quote from: FearlessF on November 15, 2021, 10:04:34 AM
not all turnovers are lucky, but some are.  Can really influence wins and losses.

offense seems difficult for most teams unless they have a very good O-line and a very good QB

especially in the defensive minded Big 10 and SEC SEC SEC
That's what I tried to point out about Indiana's 2020 record. They not only had a very high turnover rate and a very positive turnover margin, but those numbers were uncharacteristic of Indiana in the Tom Allen era. 

And those turnovers really DID affect their 2020 W-L record. Their talent level didn't really predict going 6-1 in the B1G, after all. 

I get that some defensive schemes can create more turnovers, but there was no evidence that this was scheme-based for the Hoosiers.

Therefore I suggested that their turnovers were likely to regress to the mean, and that their W-L would as well. 
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