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Re: Coaching changes
« Reply #98 on: October 28, 2021, 06:09:10 PM »
Quote from: FearlessF on October 28, 2021, 03:47:59 PM
LSU also gets better recruits than USC

At the moment, but I don't see why that should necessarily remain the case.  USC has all the players it could ever need in its backyard, and Pete Carroll recruited the hell out of that place.  Plenty of history and path to the playoff.  Not sure what the facilities are like--LSU recently revamped and totally pimped out the football complex--but there are other schools currently in construction to compete with or top what they did.  I wouldn't think SC lacks for money.  
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Re: Coaching changes
« Reply #99 on: October 28, 2021, 06:27:01 PM »
it's been going on since Pete the cheat got caught and headed for the NFL

Franklin is a great recruiter, so if he goes to USC he might elevate recruiting there above LSU, but all things the same, LSU is closer to more talent
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Re: Coaching changes
« Reply #100 on: October 28, 2021, 07:27:24 PM »
Quote from: FearlessF on October 28, 2021, 04:59:12 PM
2019 LSU had better talent than Bama and Ohio St.

Not sure I buy that. 

I think top to bottom Bama & Ohio St both had better rosters. 

LSU just happened to have the best QB in the nation and he just so happened to have the best QB season in history that we've ever seen- and a guy who looks like he might just be the next Brady or Peyton Manning in the NFL in Joe Burrow.
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« Reply #101 on: October 28, 2021, 07:31:06 PM »
Quote from: FearlessF on October 28, 2021, 03:47:59 PM
LSU also gets better recruits than USC
Yeah, I don't buy that. USC would look a lot different if they were keeping guys like Bryce Young, Kylon Thibodaux, and Najee Harris home. USC is in some of the most fertile recruiting grounds in America in SoCal- which is probably behind only South Florida in terms of top tier football talent- and they don't have other legit in-state schools to fight with them- Cal-Berkley??? UCLA??? South Florida has Miami, FSU, and Florida- all at one time were legit powerhouse teams that have won multiple national championships since the 1990s-present. UCLA and Cal-Berkley? They've never won shit and never will. 
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Re: Coaching changes
« Reply #102 on: October 28, 2021, 08:16:38 PM »
Quote from: Mdot21 on October 28, 2021, 07:27:24 PM
Not sure I buy that.

I think top to bottom Bama & Ohio St both had better rosters.

LSU just happened to have the best QB in the nation and he just so happened to have the best QB season in history that we've ever seen- and a guy who looks like he might just be the next Brady or Peyton Manning in the NFL in Joe Burrow.
agreed, I'm not talking top to bottom

don't forget the WR's and other pass catchers on that squad
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Re: Coaching changes
« Reply #103 on: October 28, 2021, 08:18:31 PM »
Quote from: Mdot21 on October 28, 2021, 07:31:06 PM
Yeah, I don't buy that. USC would look a lot different if they were keeping guys like Bryce Young, Kylon Thibodaux, and Najee Harris home. USC is in some of the most fertile recruiting grounds in America in SoCal- which is probably behind only South Florida in terms of top tier football talent- and they don't have other legit in-state schools to fight with them- Cal-Berkley??? UCLA??? South Florida has Miami, FSU, and Florida- all at one time were legit powerhouse teams that have won multiple national championships since the 1990s-present. UCLA and Cal-Berkley? They've never won shit and never will.
yes, but they're not keeping those guys at home.  Just like Miami and FSU aren't keeping the south Florida guys home

recruits want to go to the SEC SEC SEC - the proven path to the NFL
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Re: Coaching changes
« Reply #104 on: October 29, 2021, 07:54:01 AM »
It's not SEC exactly, it's the Major Programs that excel in feeding the NFL, because they excel in recruiting.  I think a 4.5 star player can go to USC and get to the League just fine if he plays early in his career, does well, and leaves after three.
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Re: Coaching changes
« Reply #105 on: October 29, 2021, 08:30:56 AM »
agreed, but 4.5 star kids look at the past 5 or so drafts and see that the majority of those players come from the top schools in the SEC and Ohio St, Clemson

USC hasn't been producing at that level

with the right coach, USC certainly can do this, but... until it happens its a tougher recruiting sell than LSU
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Re: Coaching changes
« Reply #106 on: October 29, 2021, 08:52:42 AM »
My issue if I'm a 4.5 star RB and go to Bama, I probably sit a good bit for the first two years behind someone else.  Maybe I play some in Year Three.

Or I go to "USC" and play early and show my stuff.  Which is the more sure route to a Big Payday in 3 years?

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Re: Coaching changes
« Reply #107 on: October 29, 2021, 08:57:51 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on October 29, 2021, 08:52:42 AM
My issue if I'm a 4.5 star RB and go to Bama, I probably sit a good bit for the first two years behind someone else.  Maybe I play some in Year Three.

Or I go to "USC" and play early and show my stuff.  Which is the more sure route to a Big Payday in 3 years?


Legitimate question.

If you're a 4.5 star RB at Alabama running behind 5* line, even for a year, you'll look pretty good.

If you're a 4.5* RB at USC running behind a 3*-4* line as a freshman, is that actually a good thing?
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Re: Coaching changes
« Reply #108 on: October 29, 2021, 09:04:05 AM »
Quote from: utee94 on October 29, 2021, 08:57:51 AM
Legitimate question.

If you're a 4.5 star RB at Alabama running behind 5* line, even for a year, you'll look pretty good.

If you're a 4.5* RB at USC running behind a 3*-4* line as a freshman, is that actually a good thing?
seems to be working for Bijan Robinson. 
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Re: Coaching changes
« Reply #109 on: October 29, 2021, 09:07:32 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on October 29, 2021, 08:52:42 AM
My issue if I'm a 4.5 star RB and go to Bama, I probably sit a good bit for the first two years behind someone else.  Maybe I play some in Year Three.

Or I go to "USC" and play early and show my stuff.  Which is the more sure route to a Big Payday in 3 years?
That's true provided other PAC teams have been recruiting the same.Other wise those top teams may have better lines to run behind.But if I was a recruit I'd still do what you mentioned.I'm sure any coaches,instructors,mentors kids have would point it out also
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Re: Coaching changes
« Reply #110 on: October 29, 2021, 09:10:09 AM »
Quote from: utee94 on October 29, 2021, 08:57:51 AM
Legitimate question.

If you're a 4.5 star RB at Alabama running behind 5* line, even for a year, you'll look pretty good.

If you're a 4.5* RB at USC running behind a 3*-4* line as a freshman, is that actually a good thing?
Based on videos of former 5*s i saw that got processed,yes.Not only that but these kids go high in the draft and many times aren't running behind 3* lines.Though they're getting cash to do it
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Re: Coaching changes
« Reply #111 on: October 29, 2021, 09:21:16 AM »
Quote from: MrNubbz on October 29, 2021, 09:07:32 AM
That's true provided other PAC teams have been recruiting the same.Other wise those top teams may have better lines to run behind.But if I was a recruit I'd still do what you mentioned.I'm sure any coaches,instructors,mentors kids have would point it out also
Ed Zachery, many logical reasonable folks try to steer these kids in a good direction, but somehow, the majority want to play in the SEC, Clemson, or Ohio St.

because, the NFL
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