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847badgerfan

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Re: Coaching changes
« Reply #70 on: October 27, 2021, 12:26:48 PM »


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Re: Coaching changes
« Reply #71 on: October 27, 2021, 12:28:24 PM »
A 4.0 in EE at Wisconsin is... impressive. 

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Re: Coaching changes
« Reply #72 on: October 27, 2021, 12:36:13 PM »
He likes his Brazilians.
What do his manscaping practices have to do with anything? O0
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Re: Coaching changes
« Reply #73 on: October 27, 2021, 08:55:29 PM »
He Gone. Said that the minute he hired SEC super-agent Jimmy Sexton.


https://twitter.com/OnwardStSports/status/1453489092856094725?s=20

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Re: Coaching changes
« Reply #74 on: October 27, 2021, 10:11:23 PM »
He Gone. Said that the minute he hired SEC super-agent Jimmy Sexton.


https://twitter.com/OnwardStSports/status/1453489092856094725?s=20

his stock only has one way to go  so I think its best if he takes off when he can

the days of JoePa and Tommy O coaching for decades are gone(except in Iowa where time stands still anyways)

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Re: Coaching changes
« Reply #75 on: October 28, 2021, 07:45:15 AM »
I think it depends on what a coach finds rewarding.  Is it money?  Then he's a hired gun.  Status?  Penn State has status.  General living conditions?  Maybe some programs can leverage that if a coach prefers say a larger city.  Better chance to win the NC?  Is LSU>PSU?  meh.  You leave OSU and gain Bama.

If I'm getting paid say $6 million and someone offers me $8, I'd need some additional compelling reason to depart.


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Re: Coaching changes
« Reply #76 on: October 28, 2021, 09:41:15 AM »
Whether or not it's easier to win a NC at LSU than PSU in objective reality....who knows.  But as far as the way most people will be thinking, they're going to realize the last 3 coaches at LSU have all won NC's, and Miles and O are considered idiots. 

This goes strictly to your point, CD, not so much something the people we're talking about consider:  Saban isn't going to be at Alabama forever, and Alabama isn't going to be this version of Alabama. 

But in reality coaches are not built like that any more than players are.  These guys relish the thought of being in a division with Alabama (or Ohio State).  They live to coach those games just like the players live to play them.  That's everywhere.  There's no players on the Penn State roster thinking "crap, we have to play the Buckeyes again."  No.  These guys can barely wait to get on the field with them.  That won't matter.  It will matter much more if a coach thinks he can recruit better at another school, and what he can offer potential coordinators and staff in salary.  Chances are you get more of the staff you want the more money you can pay.  For better or worse, nobody pays coordinators like LSU. 

A name I have not heard in connection with the USC or LSU jobs is Rhule.  Looks to me like he's not long for the NFL, but that's just me guessing.  I wouldn't mind him in Baton Rouge.  

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Re: Coaching changes
« Reply #77 on: October 28, 2021, 09:48:15 AM »
He Gone. Said that the minute he hired SEC super-agent Jimmy Sexton.


https://twitter.com/OnwardStSports/status/1453489092856094725?s=20


Like Franklin himself said, he hired Sexton over the summer.  It's only just being reported on now.  

You hire Sexton when you want a raise.  The only thing I know for sure this means is Franklin is getting paid more $.  It could be USC paying him more money, or LSU, or Penn State.  Where Franklin goes (or stays) won't surprise me, the only thing that would is if he's still making his current salary this time next year.  

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Re: Coaching changes
« Reply #78 on: October 28, 2021, 09:49:25 AM »
Going forward in the SEC, LSU would also have OU and Texas as opponents, in addition to whatever becomes of Bama and A&M et al.  (Bama may move east.)

Basically it's tough to get to the playoffs today, much less win two games in a row against elite competition.  But I am saying each coach has a different list of criteria for changing jobs.  I imagine for some the Number One is money, but for most it's more complicated than that.


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Re: Coaching changes
« Reply #79 on: October 28, 2021, 10:01:47 AM »
Right, and I'm pointing out the factors other than money. 

Could Lane Kiffin be jockeying for a raise from Ole Miss?  Sure....but he's not.  If offered, he'd jump to LSU for the same thing he's making right now because he wants to win a championship and he thinks he can do it in Baton Rouge.  That motivates him. 

Maybe the nice looking unis the Nittany Lions have motivates Franklin and he's doing nothing more than getting a raise from PSU.  He may not have a lick of interest in USC or LSU.  In fact, LSU already reached out to his people and it didn't go well.  Maybe because LSU is offering something he doesn't care about?  Beats me.  

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Re: Coaching changes
« Reply #80 on: October 28, 2021, 10:05:19 AM »
Beats me too, because these are individuals.  I recall in 1980, Auburn reached out to their alum Vince Dooley, who says he was highly tempted.

His kids however were Dawg fans and basically vetoed the idea.  This gave rise to a bumper sticker than said "Some folks wouldn't go to Auburn for a million dollars", which was a lot back in the day.

Sometimes the wife will have a say, like "You can go, but you'll be by yourself."


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Re: Coaching changes
« Reply #81 on: October 28, 2021, 10:11:11 AM »
Seems like a lot of PSU fans are ready to pack his bags for him though. 
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Re: Coaching changes
« Reply #82 on: October 28, 2021, 10:11:31 AM »
As far as the gauntlet, it is what it is.  All we have is history to go on.  Since LSU committed to its football program in a way it never had before, it won 3 NCs in a span of 16 years.  Okay, that's not winning MOST of the time, but then consider that only Alabama did better, and that may change when the coach responsible isn't there anymore. 

The primary thing seems to be winning the division, then more often than not the rest is not some insurmountable task. 

There's always Georgia waiting in the conference game.  There's always Oklahoma and Ohio State and Clemson waiting beyond that.  I don't think coaches look at that the same way we do.  And even here in the ranks of fandom, even I've lost the will to pay attention to all the reasons the Marcus Spears and Greg McElroys of the world have for why LSU isn't in the same league as Georgia, Buckeyes, blah blah blah. 

It's always a gauntlet.  If you're the coach at PSU, you've got OSU, UM, and MSU to get through every year.  If you do that you've STILL got Oklahoma, or Alabama, or Georgia, or whoever, waiting for you.  I can't see how that's really any different.  

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Re: Coaching changes
« Reply #83 on: October 28, 2021, 10:13:09 AM »
What about Clemson in recent years?  Gauntlet?  Or fairly easy road?

If the Pac had a dominant team, same story.  Go to USC.

 

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