Coaching Buyouts and Contract Extensions Thread

[ELA]

He's a Georgia alum from New Orleans, who now lives in Baton Rouge

[MarqHusker]

Reading the Holgersen story in the Athletic today is hilarious.

No f ing way they can Dana, not with that buyout....

[Gigem]

Could he?  Probably.  Is he?  Apparently not. 

I believe he is from Baton Rouge or somewhere close around there.  I don't know if he went to school there or has any inclination to help the football program. 

LOL.  Grew up in BR, but graduated from UGA.  First resturant right next to LSU.  

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Todd_Graves_(entrepreneur)

[Gigem]

Reading the Holgersen story in the Athletic today is hilarious.

No f ing way they can Dana, not with that buyout....

CnP it here if you can.  I'm not paying a subscrition just to read one article.  

I heard they had a good one about Jimbo's demise.  

[HailHailMSP]

That just can't be right.  tOSU would be insane to fire Day. 

I don’t see it. AD is retiring soon. Day’s win % is outrageous. I could see him maybe looking to the NFL or another big time college gig with lower expectations (not one like that currently open). The AD search will be interesting. Definitely one of the top 5 AD jobs in the country.

[MikeDeTiger]

There you go.  If he is throwing around NIL money it's probably going to UGA who, again, is doubling our average NIL deal.  

[betarhoalphadelta]

The tailgating scene at LSU was always a major part of the fandom.  I don't think that tradition would/could continue if LSU slips into the tier of people who know they're not competing for NCs.  In which case, I'm with Brad and ELA.....screw the what the sport has turned into for that.  There's been times LSU was bad.  There was always the sense that conditions were favorable to be relevant again....have to find the right coach, have to keep the in-state kids in state, etc.  Sometimes they did that, sometimes they didn't.  There was always hope. 

Now we have NIL and the state's wretched economy finally matters to the football program.  The average LSU NIL deal is less than half of the average deals at Texas and Georgia, for example.  No signs of that changing.  Last recruiting cycle, LSU lost out on all their targets they most coveted from the portal, to Texas and FSU, because they were outbid in NIL $.  Defensive recruiting is again going poorly, forcing more portal activity, and it's going to be the same story.  Why go to Baton Rouge when you can make a lot more money in Austin playing for a team that actually knows how to coach defense? 

And this is the problem. CFB always had a parity problem. But it seemed that so many of the efforts were to try to bring more parity. Whittling down the scholarship limits, no pay-for-play, making players sit out a year for a transfer, etc... And it seemed the result of that was players who were playing for the school they chose, not just for the school that gave them the biggest offer. 

The NFL pays players. But they have parity through the draft, through the CBA, and through the salary cap. Seems like CFB isn't turning into NFL Lite, it's turning into a free for all where whoever has the most money just buys their team, and with the transfer portal it's unrestricted free agency, all the time. 

In the new world, parity is gone, if even LSU fans are bemoaning the fact that they're on the outside looking in.

[847badgerfan]

[HailHailMSP]

Who is going to get Jim Leonhard? He has to be a front runner for HC opening or big D Coordinator openings?

[MikeDeTiger]

In the new world, parity is gone, if even LSU fans are bemoaning the fact that they're on the outside looking in.

To be fair, most LSU fans would not agree with me on this at this time.  It is my opinion, nothing more, that Joe Fan is still stuck in the Old World way of thinking and not looking at What Is and What Is To Be.  

I will say the majority of the LSU media personalities have been sounding this same alarm for the past year.  It was a wake-up call to watch a team that generated buzz by winning the West with a decimated roster in Kelly's first year whiff so badly on portal recruits.  They are documenting the NIL circumstances and who we've targeted and lost to other programs for that reason, and the emerging trend is not good.  We also aren't recruiting the high school ranks very well on defense either.  I assume for the same reason.  

It's possible Kelly is still a good coach and can eventually get a coaching roster together worth a damn.  The NIL thing is an entirely different problem, and one I'm not sure the school or fanbase has adequately realized and processed.  

[847badgerfan]

Who is going to get Jim Leonhard? He has to be a front runner for HC opening or big D Coordinator openings?

Packers.

[ELA]

Who is going to get Jim Leonhard? He has to be a front runner for HC opening or big D Coordinator openings?

I'm surprised MSU didn't appear to even kick the tires there.  Confirmed the OL and TE coaches are coming from Corvallis, would love to add Jim as a DC

[utee94]

To be fair, most LSU fans would not agree with me on this at this time.  It is my opinion, nothing more, that Joe Fan is still stuck in the Old World way of thinking and not looking at What Is and What Is To Be. 

I will say the majority of the LSU media personalities have been sounding this same alarm for the past year.  It was a wake-up call to watch a team that generated buzz by winning the West with a decimated roster in Kelly's first year whiff so badly on portal recruits.  They are documenting the NIL circumstances and who we've targeted and lost to other programs for that reason, and the emerging trend is not good.  We also aren't recruiting the high school ranks very well on defense either.  I assume for the same reason. 

It's possible Kelly is still a good coach and can eventually get a coaching roster together worth a damn.  The NIL thing is an entirely different problem, and one I'm not sure the school or fanbase has adequately realized and processed. 

I can confirm that UT spend on NIL is up this cycle, especially on defense.  I know Texas has beaten out LSU on a couple of highly prized recruits, including one who is considered among the best in the state of Lousiana.

Money is definitely starting to talk.

And I know ultimately this benefits Texas and a small handful of other schools but I agree it's not good for the sport overall.  I just don't think there's any way to stop it, or even modify it in any way that would be meaningful to old school fans of the game like most of us.

[ELA]

And I know ultimately this benefits Texas and a small handful of other schools but I agree it's not good for the sport overall.  I just don't think there's any way to stop it, or even modify it in any way that would be meaningful to old school fans of the game like most of us.

Put the one year sit out rule back in.  No waivers