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Topic: Coaching Buyouts and Contract Extensions Thread

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utee94

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Re: Coaching Buyouts and Contract Extensions Thread
« Reply #336 on: November 26, 2023, 05:36:13 PM »
The only succession plans that would have justified that buyout would have been to have a deal inked with Saban or Meyer.

Right.  I mean, that's pretty much my point.  This isn't like any other "normal" coach firing and buyout.

If you're going to pull the trigger on flushing a fully guaranteed $77M down the toilet, the process absolutely MUST begin with determining your next coach, and then locking him up.

Realistically they weren't going to get Saban or Meyer, but they absolutely should have vetted the field and worked through back-channels to make sure they had a done deal, before shooting from the hip at... Mark Stoops?  And then within 12 hours throwing the offer out to Elko...?

Their athletic director should be fired for this total incompetence.  I'm not even an aggie, just a Texan, and I'm utterly embarrassed for them.

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Re: Coaching Buyouts and Contract Extensions Thread
« Reply #337 on: November 26, 2023, 06:19:30 PM »
Right.  I mean, that's pretty much my point.  This isn't like any other "normal" coach firing and buyout.

If you're going to pull the trigger on flushing a fully guaranteed $77M down the toilet, the process absolutely MUST begin with determining your next coach, and then locking him up.

Realistically they weren't going to get Saban or Meyer, but they absolutely should have vetted the field and worked through back-channels to make sure they had a done deal, before shooting from the hip at... Mark Stoops?  And then within 12 hours throwing the offer out to Elko...?

Their athletic director should be fired for this total incompetence.  I'm not even an aggie, just a Texan, and I'm utterly embarrassed for them.
Honestly Elko might work out but the AD who screwed up is whoever signed the deal that left them with that enormous buyout in the first place. 

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Re: Coaching Buyouts and Contract Extensions Thread
« Reply #338 on: November 26, 2023, 06:54:11 PM »
EL PASO, Texas (AP) — UTEP fired football coach Dana Dimel on Sunday, a day after the end of his fifth losing season in six years.

The Miners finished 3-9 after a 42-28 loss to undefeated Liberty before a sparse crowd at the Sun Bowl. It was the fourth time UTEP failed to win more than three games under Dimel, who had a year left on his contract.

Dimel ended a 16-year absence from head coaching when he took over the Miners in 2018. He had three winning seasons in Wyoming from 1997-99 before three losing years with Houston.
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Re: Coaching Buyouts and Contract Extensions Thread
« Reply #339 on: November 26, 2023, 08:02:03 PM »
This is the craziest coaching search saga I think I've ever seen.  How on Earth did they fire Jimbo without having the succession plan already in place?
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Re: Coaching Buyouts and Contract Extensions Thread
« Reply #340 on: November 26, 2023, 08:09:19 PM »
apparently, Charlie Strong, Tom Herman, and Steve were planned successions.
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Re: Coaching Buyouts and Contract Extensions Thread
« Reply #341 on: November 26, 2023, 08:13:27 PM »
New to this utee?
Not really.  In fact I'm an expert in the matter-- we've fired and hired coaches 3 times in the last 10 years.

So, given my expertise on the matter, it really is something, when I say that this coach firing/search is particularly crazy.

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Re: Coaching Buyouts and Contract Extensions Thread
« Reply #342 on: November 26, 2023, 08:15:19 PM »
apparently, Charlie Strong, Tom Herman, and Steve were planned successions.
Sarkisian had already agreed to a contract in principle when Tom Herman was fired.

So, well-- yeah.

And in none of those cases was a $77 million payout haphazardly undertaken with zero plan for succession.

Y'all aren't this dumb so I guess it's pot stirring time. 

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Re: Coaching Buyouts and Contract Extensions Thread
« Reply #343 on: November 26, 2023, 08:30:56 PM »
well, in my experience, Billy C., Bo Pelini, & Mike Riley were not signed and sealed at the time of firing.
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Re: Coaching Buyouts and Contract Extensions Thread
« Reply #344 on: November 26, 2023, 08:33:59 PM »
well, in my experience, Billy C., Bo Pelini, & Mike Riley were not signed and sealed at the time of firing.
So y'all threw $77M into a fire and let them go, yes?

No, of course not.  That's not at all what happened.

So yeah, this is a unique and pretty crazy situation.  Which is what I stated.


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Re: Coaching Buyouts and Contract Extensions Thread
« Reply #345 on: November 26, 2023, 08:35:24 PM »
well, in my experience, Billy C., Bo Pelini, & Mike Riley were not signed and sealed at the time of firing.
Prolly because no one else was going to come calling
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Re: Coaching Buyouts and Contract Extensions Thread
« Reply #346 on: November 26, 2023, 08:36:28 PM »
it's only unique because of the record dollar amount

it's a pretty crazy number, you're obviously right about that
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Re: Coaching Buyouts and Contract Extensions Thread
« Reply #347 on: November 26, 2023, 08:37:48 PM »
Prolly because no one else was going to come calling
prolly because, as utee has pointed out, the AD was a blithering idiot being pushed by donors of substance
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Re: Coaching Buyouts and Contract Extensions Thread
« Reply #348 on: November 26, 2023, 08:54:20 PM »
He looks like the comic who was the friend on King of Queens


He has or had a smokin' hot wife.
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Re: Coaching Buyouts and Contract Extensions Thread
« Reply #349 on: November 26, 2023, 08:57:12 PM »
The Tennessee stories were pretty amazing back a few.
This.
They literally hired their 17th choice.

But even now, with a guy who is winning some, he's an OU alum and they could poach him whenever they want.  
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