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Honestbuckeye

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Re: Championship Week (and Other Things)
« Reply #112 on: December 20, 2020, 08:45:58 AM »
The hatred of the Big is real.  The hatred of OSU within the Big is real.  

No crack pipe needed to see that. It’s everywhere.  

With no Olave and Fields injury- they won’t be competitive anyway. 

I am happy they got some games in after the Big screws the pooch, and got their 4th asterisked Big Ten Championship. 

The rest of it is pure politics ( talking heads and Commitee) which if you think about it- is stupid and quite disgusting.  
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Re: Championship Week (and Other Things)
« Reply #113 on: December 20, 2020, 08:47:30 AM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on December 20, 2020, 01:56:30 AM
A - defenses have been behind all year in every conference
B - yes, once Saban started putting 93 octane in his own offense, there's been an admission that offenses can no longer be consistently shut down

Not every conference.
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Re: Championship Week (and Other Things)
« Reply #114 on: December 20, 2020, 08:48:03 AM »
Folks hate any conference or team that is of consequence, like say Eastern Michigan...
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Re: Championship Week (and Other Things)
« Reply #115 on: December 20, 2020, 08:52:27 AM »
That said, the fight isn't at #3. The Buckeyes will be #3 and will play #2 Clemson in Jerry World.

The question is at #4. The contenders:

  • Previous #2 Notre Dame: in their favor they have a win over new #2 Clemson and another quality win over UNC. Against them, Clemson started an equipment manager, two cheerleaders, and the Tiger mascot when losing to them and they have zero hardware. 
  • Previous #5 aTm:  In their favor they have a win over UF and their only loss was to #1 Bama. Against them the loss wasn't close, they have zero hardware, and their second best win is over an unranked team.
  • Previous #10 Oklahoma: in their favor they have a P5 Championship and just avenged their earlier loss to ISU. Against them they have two losses including one to a sub .500 team.

It may not be fair, but I think aTm will be hurt by the fact that putting them in would create an uninteresting (outside of aTm's fanbase) rematch.

I think Oklahoma has a shot largely because it gets the committee out of having to explain why they picked ND over aTm (or vice-versa).

Most probable:
  • Notre Dame
  • Oklahoma 
  • aTm
  • Cincy

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Re: Championship Week (and Other Things)
« Reply #116 on: December 20, 2020, 08:52:37 AM »
Buckeyes will be in - then out,not the year I want to see them here.Day's refusal to run the damn ball for 2&1/2 Qtrs is a huge WTF mark.Specially when it was revealed Fields hand was hurting,amazing how clueless these guys can be after alters have been built to them.Fleck was another one yesterday who had a brain fart fantastic,under a half minute that the officials took off 10 secs. more but still had 2 TOs and didn't have the brass to fling it
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Re: Championship Week (and Other Things)
« Reply #117 on: December 20, 2020, 09:05:28 AM »
Quote from: MrNubbz on December 20, 2020, 08:52:37 AM
Buckeyes will be in - then out,not the year I want to see them here.Day's refusal to run the damn ball for 2&1/2 Qtrs is a huge WTF mark.Specially when it was revealed Fields hand was hurting,amazing how clueless these guys can be after alters have been built to them.Fleck was another one yesterday who had a brain fart fantastic,under a half minute that the officials took off 10 secs. more but still had 2 TOs and didn't have the brass to fling it

Northwestern had like a top ten run defense heading into that game. It is logical to formulate your game plan around the pass.

Fitz being a defensive guy wanted instead to take away OSU's best weapon (fields) and make Day beat him with the second or third option (OSU's seemingly pedestrian run game). 

Day figured it out in time to win the game by double digits, and produce a record setting running back at a school that ran the ball on just about every play up until the 90s. 
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Re: Championship Week (and Other Things)
« Reply #118 on: December 20, 2020, 09:10:39 AM »
I agree Ohio St is in easy. I feel really queasy about putting them with a 6-0 record while some of these other teams have played 10 or 11 games but they are benefitting from the fact that no one outside of Bama and Clemson looks playoff caliber. If the committee had a 10-0 Oklahoma, or A&M had at least played Bama tough, or ND stayed with Clemson I think they would consider leaving Ohio St out, but everyone else’s warts puts Ohio St in.

I predict the 4th spot goes to ND but I would give it to Oklahoma if I were a one man committee.  They have the conference championship. They have two close early season losses but avenged one of them.  They have 3 ranked wins in Iowa St, Texas, and Ok St and they avoid potential rematches of blowouts in either the semis or title game.
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Re: Championship Week (and Other Things)
« Reply #119 on: December 20, 2020, 09:17:49 AM »
Quote from: Brutus Buckeye on December 20, 2020, 09:05:28 AM

Day figured it out in time to win the game by double digits, and produce a record setting running back at a school that ran the ball on just about every play up until the 90s.

I went to at least 4 other message boards and even non Buckeyes were screaming to grind it out.When seemingly Fields couldn't hit the surf when standing on the shore.Day will be schooled if he farts around in the next round
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Re: Championship Week (and Other Things)
« Reply #120 on: December 20, 2020, 09:19:11 AM »
Quote from: Kris60 on December 20, 2020, 09:10:39 AM
I agree Ohio St is in easy. I feel really queasy about putting them with a 6-0 record while some of these other teams have played 10 or 11 games but they are benefitting from the fact that no one outside of Bama and Clemson looks playoff caliber. If the committee had a 10-0 Oklahoma, or A&M had at least played Bama tough, or ND stayed with Clemson I think they would consider leaving Ohio St out, but everyone else’s warts puts Ohio St in.

I predict the 4th spot goes to ND but I would give it to Oklahoma if I were a one man committee.  They have the conference championship. They have two close early season losses but avenged one of them.  They have 3 ranked wins in Iowa St, Texas, and Ok St and they avoid potential rematches of blowouts in either the semis or title game.
If you think about the games that Ohio State did not play versus Maryland, Illinois, and Michigan, I would make the argument that it hurt them more than help them to only play six games. Never developing a rhythm, never developing a routine, and three certainly easy wins only hurt them. And to me that was very evident yesterday because so many of their back ups had a little game experience this year
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Re: Championship Week (and Other Things)
« Reply #121 on: December 20, 2020, 09:22:03 AM »
Yeah, it might seem obvious to us, but these HCs are stubborn. 

"No way these nerds can keep our passing attack on lockdown the whole time" 
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Re: Championship Week (and Other Things)
« Reply #122 on: December 20, 2020, 09:25:31 AM »
I would pick OU.  ND got hammered.
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Re: Championship Week (and Other Things)
« Reply #123 on: December 20, 2020, 09:59:58 AM »
Quote from: Honestbuckeye on December 20, 2020, 09:19:11 AM
If you think about the games that Ohio State did not play versus Maryland, Illinois, and Michigan, I would make the argument that it hurt them more than help them to only play six games. Never developing a rhythm, never developing a routine, and three certainly easy wins only hurt them. And to me that was very evident yesterday because so many of their back ups had a little game experience this year
I mean, I guess but ultimately people know it’s easier to go 6-0 than 10-0. The Big 12 added a ridiculous CCG so they wouldn’t have one less data point to be judged on. Ohio St has 4 or 5 less. Also, it isn’t like Ohio St hasn’t had its “WTF” moments against lesser opponents before.
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Re: Championship Week (and Other Things)
« Reply #124 on: December 20, 2020, 10:03:13 AM »
Quote from: Kris60 on December 20, 2020, 09:59:58 AM
I mean, I guess but ultimately people know it’s easier to go 6-0 than 10-0. The Big 12 added a ridiculous CCG so they wouldn’t have one less data point to be judged on. Ohio St has 4 or 5 less. Also, it isn’t like Ohio St hasn’t had its “WTF” moments against lesser opponents before.
True.  Who hasn’t had their WTF moment?

still, they are 4th in strength of record( ahead of Clemson)2nd in total offense, 9th in total defense
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Re: Championship Week (and Other Things)
« Reply #125 on: December 20, 2020, 10:04:50 AM »
Quote from: Honestbuckeye on December 20, 2020, 08:45:58 AM
The hatred of the Big is real.  The hatred of OSU within the Big is real. 

No crack pipe needed to see that. It’s everywhere. 
If it's real, Ohio State won't make it in. And Ohio State will make it in.

And everyone wants to be aggrieved these days. Find the hate, let is simmer, then wonder why we see so much of it. 
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