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betarhoalphadelta

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Re: CFP Thread
« Reply #392 on: Today at 05:28:17 PM »
Well, it's not like UNC/UVA/NCSU/VT are traditional powers in CFB. So it's not like the ACC/XII losing them would necessarily upset the apple cart when it comes to football. It'd be a major loss for basketball, but given that the SEC isn't the most tremendous basketball conference in the world, it might be an appropriate rebalancing...

FSU/ND would be losses for the ACC/XII (albeit "loss" considering ND isn't really applicable since they're not fully in the ACC now). 

But let's say, sure, you lose them all... Who would be worth it to get the ACC/XII to 20?

Traditional ACC schools you'd keep:
Clemson
Duke
GaTech
Miami
BC
Pitt
Syracuse
Cal
Stanford

Traditional XII schools you'd keep:
Arizona
Arizona St
BYU
Colorado
Iowa State
Kansas
Kansas State
OkSU
Texas Tech
Utah
WVU

That's 20 right there. Could you maybe look at subbing out someone for SMU, TCU, Louisville, Cincinnati, Wake, UCF, etc? Maybe. Could you sub out someone like Boise St for one of the above? Maybe. 

But I think you could get to a solid 20. It might still be 3rd of 3 in the actual pecking order, but over time as you're not diluting with schools numbering 61-13x for recruits, things might rebalance a little as some of these schools could start pulling in recruits. And you're in geographies that the B1G and SEC wouldn't be in, so there might be some local recruiting advantages for some of those schools. They might not be the most fertile fields, but you'd be unchallenged in AZ, KS, CO, UT, upstate NY (and frankly much of the Northeast might prefer Syracuse to anywhere else) and the Bay Area. 

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« Reply #393 on: Today at 05:36:38 PM »
That group is not on par with the SEC and B1G.
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« Reply #394 on: Today at 05:46:09 PM »
That group is not on par with the SEC and B1G.
Maybe not right now.

But let's say you get things down to 60 schools. You start getting some level of unionization and a CBA, killing off unrestricted free agency the way we have with the current transfer portal. You start actually building parity into the sport... 

Might it not balance out over time? 

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« Reply #395 on: Today at 05:50:45 PM »
Probably not. 

And if unequal revenue sharing takes hold, it won't even matter.
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« Reply #396 on: Today at 07:07:00 PM »
Dan Lanning says this game should be at Texas Tech. And he's right. If there is one thing the CFP should copy from the NFL, it's having playoff games at the home fields.

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« Reply #397 on: Today at 08:32:20 PM »
That group is not on par with the SEC and B1G.
No, but it's better than what they are now, 2 separate entities taking up 2 spots.  Combined, they take up 1.  
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« Reply #398 on: Today at 08:34:13 PM »
Maybe not right now.

But let's say you get things down to 60 schools. You start getting some level of unionization and a CBA, killing off unrestricted free agency the way we have with the current transfer portal. You start actually building parity into the sport...

Might it not balance out over time?

Even a stronger influence on gradual parity would be scheduling.  All 12 games vs these 60 teams only.  And with such a closed system, you could make it so all teams get 6 home/6 away games.  No more payday games.  No more cupcakes.  

You know, an even playing field.  
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« Reply #399 on: Today at 08:52:32 PM »
Even a stronger influence on gradual parity would be scheduling.  All 12 games vs these 60 teams only.  And with such a closed system, you could make it so all teams get 6 home/6 away games.  No more payday games.  No more cupcakes. 

You know, an even playing field. 
Why 60? Why not 32?

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« Reply #400 on: Today at 09:12:52 PM »
Why 60? Why not 32?
We already have 32.  It's called the NFL.  If college gets too close to being the NFL, it will wither away and die.

60 is big.
Lots of schools, bands, mascots, cheerleaders, etc.  And yes, it allows for a traditional-looking bell curve, which I'll claim is a strength until I'm blue in the face.
Postseason teams with 11-1 type records >>>>> 9-7 teams winning Super Bowls.
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