CFP Thread

[MrNubbz]

My issue is your "solution" conveniently aligns perfectly with what the money people want. You are the masses, here. Screw the little guy, make most of the games meaningless to ensure the biggest teams get the rewards at the end of the season. It's all there.

Ya my bullshit meter went off not sure what he intendeded to write but now it appears he's arguing against himself. The masses are the Blue Bloods and the punchers class right below(Top 25). And I absolutely agree the season HAS to count for something but the masses keep watching as the network numbnuts keep dragging the season out by placating programs that entirely have no business in the CFP. Cut the field down to 8 and be done with it otherwise the season will be poking it's ass in to Groundhog Day like the Sunday League. It's that absurdity that will drag the once great sport into the abyss

[FearlessF]

I'd rather go back to 1973 and hear others complain about that

[Cincydawg]

No matter how things are redesigned, there will always be loud complaints by those who have zero influence over what happens, or can happen.  I personally am through "redesigning" stuff I can't actually influence, whatever they do is "OK" with me, more or less, I may carp about a thing or three, maybe, but mostly in mirth.  Nothing is going to satisfy everyone, or even most everyone, or even a substantial plurality, so we're doomed to constant complaints about anything that changes, or doesn't change.  All sound and fury ...

And while it can be interesting perhaps to discuss ideas, which is fine, they wouldn't be perfect or near so even if implemented.  So, I'm lazily just along for the ride, and if I can't stand "it", I'll just get off.  That would be ... odd, because we're living through the heyday of UGA football, no other period has been anywhere near as good.

Of course, for Dawg fans, anything short of the NC is a catastrophic season.

If you can't enjoy watching .......

[FearlessF]

another reason to go back to 73 - no social media or message boards to give a huge voice to the unwashed masses

[Brutus Buckeye]

First you'd have to invent a time machine. 

Better get cracking. 

[FearlessF]

I know where there is an old DeLorean .........

[betarhoalphadelta]

Nothing is going to satisfy everyone, or even most everyone, or even a substantial plurality, so we're doomed to constant complaints about anything that changes, or doesn't change.  

Two things in the world are known to piss people off...

The way things are...

...and change. 

[bayareabadger]

another reason to go back to 73 - no social media or message boards to give a huge voice to the unwashed masses

Another perk of the modern era: we are likely better washed

[bayareabadger]

It’s interesting when you stop and really think about it.

Cutting out the little guys aligns with generating money, being more of an entertainment product,
matching the wants of “the masses” and designing competitive games at the expense of this being a truer competition.

And in a lot of ways, there is value in that Outlook and a good case for it (money, pleasing masses, entertainment value). But it’s good to align the motivations correctly.

[FearlessF]

Another perk of the modern era: we are likely better washed

well, we certainly have more and better options

[MrNubbz]

First you'd have to invent a time machine.

Better get cracking.

Does cracking open a copious amount of Bud cans count?

[OrangeAfroMan]

My issue is your "solution" conveniently aligns perfectly with what the money people want. You are the masses, here. Screw the little guy, make most of the games meaningless to ensure the biggest teams get the rewards at the end of the season. It's all there.

You have it all backwards.

It's not "screw the little guy" to acknowledge they are playing on an entirely different competitive plane.  It's not "screw the little guy" to have the best teams that earn it make the playoff.  Letting in teams with bullshit high school schedules goes against everything we know from a competition standpoint.  11-1 and your best win is New Mexico?  No, sorry, that's not good enough.
Having the little guy get his head caved in every year isn't screwing him?!?  How's that?!?

And "make most of the games meaningless" how?!?  Its' better for all the undefeated and 1-loss teams late in the year to not give a shit if they lose, because they're in anyway?  Talk about meaningless games!  

I can't believe I'm getting flack for wanting teams to earn it.  What set college football apart was the urgency of the regular season.  That is completely gone now.  I want to go back to that.  We must not be speaking the same language for you to accuse me of wanting to "make most of the games meaningless."  
No, that's what we have now.  

And also no, it's not a good thing to have like 15 teams' fans thinking they're still in it, for 'engagement' or 'exciting' purposes.  It's bullshit, watering-down of college football.  It's lottery ticket thinking.  Fuck that.  I'm tired of catering to the dumbest, barely-interested "fans."  Fuck them.

What ever happened to making your product better in order to attract more fans?  Our culture has fallen into a habit of catering to the masses to bring them in, and it's detrimental.  Does it work?  Does it make 0.2% more money?  Sure.  You got me.  It works.
That doesn't mean it's the best way.  Being a whore to the dollar isn't the best way.  

[847badgerfan]

JMU has lost all 11 of its offensive starters to the portal.

[betarhoalphadelta]

@OrangeAfroMan -- a serious question. 

What is the "ideal" CFB championship structure, to you? 

For the purposes of the question, you are appointed The Czar of College Football. You can keep the playoff or get rid of it entirely. You can split off half the FBS if you want. You can remake conferences and schedules as you see fit. 

What is your idealized regular season, idealized postseason, and idealized method for crowning a champion? 

(For the record; I know what mine is... Go ALL the way back. No bowl alliance / coalition / BCS. No playoff of any size. Play your games, go to bowls, and the MNC(s) are awarded by the AP and Coaches polls once all the bowl games are played.)