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Topic: CFB51 Preseason All-Big Ten Team - Kicker #2

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ELA

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CFB51 Preseason All-Big Ten Team - Kicker #2
« on: July 23, 2018, 08:28:04 AM »
FIRST TEAM
QBTrace McSorley, Penn State, Senior
RBJonathan Taylor, Wisconsin, Sophomore
RBJ.K. Dobbins, Ohio State, Sophomore
WRJD Spielman, Nebraska, Sophomore
WRStanley Morgan, Nebraska, Senior
TENoah Fant, Iowa, Junior
TDavid Edwards, Wisconsin, Junior
GBeau Benzschawel, Wisconsin, Senior
CKirk Barron, Purdue, Senior
GMichael Jordan, Ohio State, Junior
TIsaiah Prince, Ohio State, Senior
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DENick Bosa, Ohio State, Junior
DTDre'Mont Jones, Ohio State, Junior
DTOlive Sagapolu, Wisconsin, Senior
DERashan Gary, Michigan, Junior
LBT.J. Edwards, Wisconsin, Senior
LBDevin Bush, Michigan, Junior
LBRyan Connelly, Wisconsin, Senior
CBLavert Hill, Michigan, Junior
CBDavid Long, Michigan, Junior
SD'Cota Dixon, Wisconsin, Senior
SJordan Fuller, Ohio State, Junior
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KRaphael Gaglianone, Wisconsin, Senior
SECOND TEAM

QBBrian Lewerke, Michigan State, Junior
RBL.J. Scott, Michigan State, Senior
RBRodney Smith, Minnesota, Senior
WRJuwon Johnson, Penn State, Junior
WRParris Campbell, Ohio State, Senior
TECole Herdman, Purdue, Senior
TTariq Cole, Rutgers, Senior
GMichael Dieter, Wisconsin, Junior
CKeegan Render, Iowa, Senior
GJerald Foster, Nebraska, Senior
TRyan Bates, Penn State, Junior
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DEChase Winovich, Michigan, Senior
DTJordan Thompson, Northwestern, Senior
DTMick Stoltenberg, Nebraska, Senior
DEAnthony Nelson, Iowa, Junior
LBJoe Bachie, Michigan State, Junior
LBKhaleke Hudson, Michigan, Junior
LBMarkus Bailey, Purdue, Junior
CBMontre Hartage, Northwestern, Senior
CBAmani Oruwariye, Penn State, Senior
SAntoine Winfield, Minnesota, Junior
SJonathan Crawford, Indiana, Senior
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Re: CFB51 Preseason All-Big Ten Team - Kicker #2
« Reply #1 on: July 23, 2018, 10:08:10 AM »
The picks on defense are essentially all from Wisconsin, Ohio State and Michigan. Going by name I can't really fault any of those, but I'm expecting MSU to have a Top 12-20 defense and am wondering who we left of. Dowell - Who else? IU could also be under-represented.
 
Defensive 1st and 2nd teamers 
Michigan - 6 (4 firsters, 2 on second)
Wisconsin - 4 (4,0)
Ohio State - (3,0)
Northwestern (0,2)
MSU (0,1)
Nebraska  (0,1)
Iowa  (0,1)
Purdue  (0,1)
Penn State  (0,1)
Minnesota  (0,1)
Indiana  (0,1)
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Re: CFB51 Preseason All-Big Ten Team - Kicker #2
« Reply #2 on: July 23, 2018, 10:27:18 AM »
I think that's also the nature of the hard cutoff, where if you aren't one of the 4 best DEs, it's all the same, so #5 is the same as #50.  I don't think I'm being overly homeristic in saying I think MSU has the best player left off at 4 of the 5 positions: DE (Willikes), DT (Williams), CB (Scott) and S (Dowell).  I'm not saying I disagree with the players selected.  I voted Dowell, but I don't think I voted for any of the other 3 (maybe Williams).  I think MSU wound up with the 5th best player in the conference at four positions where we only took 4.

FWIW, to support that isn't just me being a homer, Athlon, which is the only publication I'm aware of that went through 3 teams of preseason all-conference teams had Willikes and Dowell both on their 2nd team, and Scott on their 3rd team.  They didn't have Williams, but they didn't differentiate between DE/DT, so of the 12 DL in their preseason honors, only 3 were classified as DT for voting purposes here, the other 9 were DEs.
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Re: CFB51 Preseason All-Big Ten Team - Kicker #2
« Reply #3 on: July 23, 2018, 10:36:06 AM »
That fits what I was thinking. The Big Ten is as logjammed on defense as ever. It may be most stark at DE, but it really extends to all positions. LBs for sure. 

And the opposing passer ratings for these corners, including Scott who didn't make it...bananas.
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Re: CFB51 Preseason All-Big Ten Team - Kicker #2
« Reply #4 on: July 23, 2018, 10:42:27 AM »
The secondaries in the conference this year have a chance to be absurd, that's for sure.

The fact that this might be the deepest the conference has been at the QB position in recent memory should make for some good PFF reading on who is actually coming out ahead in these battles.
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Re: CFB51 Preseason All-Big Ten Team - Kicker #2
« Reply #5 on: July 24, 2018, 09:08:32 AM »
Tiebreaker needed
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