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Topic: Peach Bowl: #10 Florida 41, #7 Michigan 15

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Re: Peach Bowl: #10 Florida 41, #7 Michigan 15
« Reply #112 on: December 29, 2018, 11:13:27 PM »
Quote from: Mdot21 on December 29, 2018, 08:39:10 PM
Harbaugh is on the hot seat imo. If the same old same old happens in 2019, he’s done. I really can’t see him surviving into 2020 if it’s just more of the same old bullshit.
Everybody is on the same page regarding Harbaugh’s stubbornness with the offense but can I make the case why his seat isn’t so hot? Especially given the big picture?
Michigan put so much effort into bringing him home, so much they pay him $7 mil year not to mention the mammoth buyout.
I also think all parties are still spooked by the RichRod, Hoke, and Dave Brandon era(s) that one reason for not letting go of a ten win/yr coach will be the real risk of returning to a 6 win/yr coach.
And in the even bigger picture, I think the parties in charge are level headed enough to look around the conference and take a breath of relief that the fan’s biggest complaint is a 10-3 season in wake of the recent, and COSTLY, scandals lingering in Columbus and especially East Lansing.
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Re: Peach Bowl: #10 Florida 41, #7 Michigan 15
« Reply #113 on: December 30, 2018, 12:17:39 AM »
Quote from: CatsbyAZ on December 29, 2018, 11:13:27 PM
Everybody is on the same page regarding Harbaugh’s stubbornness with the offense but can I make the case why his seat isn’t so hot? Especially given the big picture?
Michigan put so much effort into bringing him home, so much they pay him $7 mil year not to mention the mammoth buyout.
I also think all parties are still spooked by the RichRod, Hoke, and Dave Brandon era(s) that one reason for not letting go of a ten win/yr coach will be the real risk of returning to a 6 win/yr coach.
And in the even bigger picture, I think the parties in charge are level headed enough to look around the conference and take a breath of relief that the fan’s biggest complaint is a 10-3 season in wake of the recent, and COSTLY, scandals lingering in Columbus and especially East Lansing.
Haha.  “ costly and lingering”.   Incorrect on both counts.  The sound of losing when your supposed to win.  
Michigan has substantially more talent than Florida.   Do you think it makes UM fans feel better that an assistant at OSU was accused of domestic abuse, and it overflowed on to the head coach there?   Just ask them.  Kicking the hell out of Harbaugh as underdogs erase any of that, which is why it was not costly or lingering.  
The real questions are, why can’t Michigan win big games, beat rivals, win bowl games, or finish strong, when they clearly have the players to do it and the head coach who was brought in to do all of those things?
Saying the answer is in Columbus or East Lansing is excuse making and deflecting. The answer is in that locker room somewhere....
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Re: Peach Bowl: #10 Florida 41, #7 Michigan 15
« Reply #114 on: December 30, 2018, 02:03:10 AM »
Florida's recruiting classes were ranked higher than UM's in 2014 and 15.  So while Michigan's overall roster is more talented (they skew young bc of attrition), the veterans on Florida aren't any worse.  




Anyway, UM was handicapped roster-wise and Florida wasn't, and that's probably the difference between an even game at half turning into a blowout.
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Re: Peach Bowl: #10 Florida 41, #7 Michigan 15
« Reply #115 on: December 30, 2018, 07:23:38 AM »
Maybe going forward we will see 10-3 as a great season for Michigan.
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Re: Peach Bowl: #10 Florida 41, #7 Michigan 15
« Reply #116 on: December 30, 2018, 10:41:09 AM »
Harbaugh keeps winning 10 and he will stay in Ann Arbor

blow out losses in big games at the end of the season magnify things, but the question would be:  Who's going to do better than Harbaugh?
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Re: Peach Bowl: #10 Florida 41, #7 Michigan 15
« Reply #117 on: December 30, 2018, 10:47:12 AM »
I would think any major program that is limited to 10-3 while losing consistently to the major rival would get unhappy.

We're talking Mark Richt here, fired after two 10 win seasons and two conference titles.

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Re: Peach Bowl: #10 Florida 41, #7 Michigan 15
« Reply #118 on: December 30, 2018, 10:49:39 AM »
I agree, but the fear is that 10 win seasons could easily go to 5 win seasons
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Re: Peach Bowl: #10 Florida 41, #7 Michigan 15
« Reply #119 on: December 30, 2018, 10:57:41 AM »
Florida was my pick for most under ranked team, and I think I nailed that one.  I had Miami for the reverse and am pretty close there as well.

I don't think Florida is by any means a great team, but they beat most of the teams they should have, and upset LSU and UM, which compensates for losses to UK and Mizzou.  They lost the turnover margin 3-0 versus UGA and that had some bearing on the outcome, but they didn't move the ball very consistently either.

Give them a good QB and they would be a tough out.
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Re: Peach Bowl: #10 Florida 41, #7 Michigan 15
« Reply #120 on: December 30, 2018, 11:08:08 AM »
Quote from: ELA on December 29, 2018, 09:16:18 PM
Hell, OSU has a streak of coaching home runs going back decades.  Their worst hire still had a crazy good record and would have still made the CFP with a legit shot to win a national title in a couple 10-1 years that ended with an upset loss to UM
Yeah, lost in all this is that John Cooper had a hall of fame coaching career. Not the worst guy to be compared to. 
While he does have some Cooper-esque qualities, 1-3 in Bowl games, .500 vs Sparty, O-fer OSU and ND, he pretty much handles everyone else that they play with ease. He won't be on any type of hot seat winning ten games per year, imo. (Particularly now that they have one of those elusive Big Ten divisional co-championship banners to hang) 
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Re: Peach Bowl: #10 Florida 41, #7 Michigan 15
« Reply #121 on: December 30, 2018, 11:36:15 AM »
Quote from: Honestbuckeye on December 30, 2018, 12:17:39 AM
Haha.  “ costly and lingering”.   Incorrect on both counts.  The sound of losing when your supposed to win.  

Saying the answer is in Columbus or East Lansing is excuse making and deflecting. The answer is in that locker room somewhere....
What about my other points? Mainly does Michigan want to:
A) get rid of a guy they spent so much effort courting?
B) is paying $7/8 annually, not to mention the buyout should Harbaugh be forced out
C) and go on a hire search that might net no better than a coach along the likes of 6/7 win RichRod and Hoke?
In aggregate Harbaugh really isn’t a serious candidate for layoff.
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Re: Peach Bowl: #10 Florida 41, #7 Michigan 15
« Reply #122 on: December 30, 2018, 11:41:05 AM »
He's not going to be fired any time soon for those reasons, but I can see fans chaffing a bit, and it could get worse if he doesn't manage a win over OSU soon.  Better they go 9-4 and beat OSU than 11-2 and lose.
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