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Brutus Buckeye

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Re: CFB Realignment
« Reply #70 on: November 22, 2021, 10:26:52 AM »


Once upon a time the WAC added UTSA in a desperate attempt to save WAC Football. 

Fast forward to today, and it's UTSA's little brother Incarnate Word out of San Antonio TX. 


https://twitter.com/UIWAthletics/status/1459189933273493505?s=20

"But Brutus, that only brings them up to seven!" you howl. 

Worry not, current WAC member Rio Grande will be adding Football in 2025. 


https://twitter.com/rgv_com/status/1459180174356975632?s=20
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Re: CFB Realignment
« Reply #71 on: November 22, 2021, 10:29:13 AM »
I still think the B1G should add ND in the West and wait for it....Miami-FL in the East.

Add a huge national brand like ND and add a great academic school like Miami in the East and it gives B1G Network access to South FL tv market (one of the 5 or 6 biggest in US) and access to all them South Florida recruits.

Miami would probably join in a hot-minute. They'd be making so much more money in the B1G than they ever could in a weak and dying ACC.
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Re: CFB Realignment
« Reply #72 on: November 22, 2021, 10:30:17 AM »
Quote from: Mdot21 on November 22, 2021, 10:29:13 AM
I still think the B1G should add ND in the West and wait for it....Miami-FL in the East.

Add a huge national brand like ND and add a great academic school like Miami in the East and it gives B1G Network access to South FL tv market (one of the 5 or 6 biggest in US) and access to all them South Florida recruits.

Miami would probably join in a hot-minute. They'd be making so much more money in the B1G than they ever could in a weak and dying ACC.
It's too early in the day to be drinking this heavily, Mdot... Please tell me you're on vacation this week :57:
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Re: CFB Realignment
« Reply #73 on: November 22, 2021, 10:45:17 AM »
Ya teams getting use to 20-30 deg temps going to Coral Gables in November.Not sure the Canes would want to play in Madison/Ann Arbor/E.Lansing/Mnpls in November
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Re: CFB Realignment
« Reply #74 on: November 22, 2021, 11:00:56 AM »
Quote from: betarhoalphadelta on November 22, 2021, 10:30:17 AM
It's too early in the day to be drinking this heavily, Mdot... Please tell me you're on vacation this week :57:
Not drunk at all. They’d be the only team out there that I’d even want to add in the East. 
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Re: CFB Realignment
« Reply #75 on: November 22, 2021, 11:01:39 AM »
Quote from: Mdot21 on November 22, 2021, 10:29:13 AM
I still think the B1G should add ND in the West and wait for it....Miami-FL in the East.

Add a huge national brand like ND and add a great academic school like Miami in the East and it gives B1G Network access to South FL tv market (one of the 5 or 6 biggest in US) and access to all them South Florida recruits.

Miami would probably join in a hot-minute. They'd be making so much more money in the B1G than they ever could in a weak and dying ACC.

For football only Miami in the B1G might actually work.

It's all the other sports that are the problem.  Sports that play way more than 4 or 5 away games and oftentimes on weekdays just wouldn't work out, at all, which makes it a non-starter. 

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Re: CFB Realignment
« Reply #76 on: November 22, 2021, 11:02:16 AM »
Quote from: MrNubbz on November 22, 2021, 10:45:17 AM
Ya teams getting use to 20-30 deg temps going to Coral Gables in November.Not sure the Canes would want to play in Madison/Ann Arbor/E.Lansing/Mnpls in November
Miami Dolphins play in a division with all cold weather teams- Boston, NYC, & Buffalo. 

Miami-FL makes a lot of sense in the B1G E when you really think about it.
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Re: CFB Realignment
« Reply #77 on: November 22, 2021, 11:03:53 AM »
Quote from: utee94 on November 22, 2021, 11:01:39 AM
For football only Miami in the B1G might actually work.

It's all the other sports that are the problem.  Sports that play way more than 4 or 5 away games and oftentimes on weekdays just wouldn't work out, at all, which makes it a non-starter.
The only sport that matters and the only sport there even is in my opinion is football. 

Joining B1G E in football only would help them make a lot more money to fund all those other sports that no one gives a shit about and lose money.
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Re: CFB Realignment
« Reply #78 on: November 22, 2021, 11:10:47 AM »
why take the Canes when you could have the Noles?
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Re: CFB Realignment
« Reply #79 on: November 22, 2021, 11:29:14 AM »
Quote from: Mdot21 on November 22, 2021, 11:03:53 AM
The only sport that matters and the only sport there even is in my opinion is football.

Joining B1G E in football only would help them make a lot more money to fund all those other sports that no one gives a shit about and lose money.
No major team is going to join a conference football-only, unless/until ALL schools decouple 

Where's Miami going to park their non-revenue sports?  The ACC won't allow them to decouple football because, as you say, football is the only sport that matters.  Miami's football is the only sport that potentially generates any revenue for the ACC, and having the conference support their other sports without their football program, again, is a non-starter.

We've speculated a lot about what could be possible if ALL of the major schools decoupled football from the non-revenue sports, but until that happens for EVERYONE, a school like Miami wouldn't be able to go it alone.
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Re: CFB Realignment
« Reply #80 on: November 22, 2021, 11:47:03 AM »
To me, I just don't get the Miami idea. I just don't get the sense that they "fit" in any way, shape, or form.

You don't have a pairing for them either. UT/OU would have been a bit of a difficult fit in a few ways (geography/culture), but at least they fit as large, public, research schools, flagships universities of their respective states, and with rich tradition in football. Miami would be a weird outlier shoehorned into the conference for what, access to S.Fla recruits? How many of those recruits really want to spend a winter in Madison WI anyway? If you could add them as a pair, say FSU/daU, maybe they'll feel a little less stranded, but FSU doesn't feel like a program we'd want to add either. 

Miami had no real football history prior to Schnellenberger, and their program has tremendously fallen off after their 20-year run of relevance. They don't have much fan support. They don't even have a stadium of their own. It seems like on top of all the cultural/other reasons they don't fit, adding Miami would be like trying to catch a falling star long after its rise. 

They don't belong in the B1G. 
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Re: CFB Realignment
« Reply #81 on: November 22, 2021, 12:09:54 PM »
Quote from: betarhoalphadelta on November 22, 2021, 11:47:03 AM
To me, I just don't get the Miami idea. I just don't get the sense that they "fit" in any way, shape, or form.

You don't have a pairing for them either. UT/OU would have been a bit of a difficult fit in a few ways (geography/culture), but at least they fit as large, public, research schools, flagships universities of their respective states, and with rich tradition in football. Miami would be a weird outlier shoehorned into the conference for what, access to S.Fla recruits? How many of those recruits really want to spend a winter in Madison WI anyway? If you could add them as a pair, say FSU/daU, maybe they'll feel a little less stranded, but FSU doesn't feel like a program we'd want to add either.

Miami had no real football history prior to Schnellenberger, and their program has tremendously fallen off after their 20-year run of relevance. They don't have much fan support. They don't even have a stadium of their own. It seems like on top of all the cultural/other reasons they don't fit, adding Miami would be like trying to catch a falling star long after its rise.

They don't belong in the B1G.

Dump Rutgers and Maryland, and add FSU/Miami.
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Re: CFB Realignment
« Reply #82 on: November 22, 2021, 12:36:55 PM »
Quote from: utee94 on November 22, 2021, 12:09:54 PM
Dump Rutgers and Maryland, and add FSU/Miami.


Dump Rutgers, we all agree that has been a horrible experiment.

Maryland, beat Texas twice. They are not a football helmet, but they are a decent add. The worse thing Maryland has for it is they were added with Rutgers. 
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Re: CFB Realignment
« Reply #83 on: November 22, 2021, 12:38:09 PM »
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