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if Frost stayed at UCF and went undefeated 3 seasons in a row they would gain the credibility to to broker a slot at the table

good luck to Josh Heupel to keep the training running

Supposedly. But the year that Boise State and TCU faced each other as undefeated teams in the Fiesta Bowl, why do you think that was? Now, I don't fault them for not being in the national championship game, because 2009 was the year that we had 5 undefeated teams, and nobody was going to put anyone other than Alabama and Texas into the championship. But why have the two mid-majors face each other?
I personally believe it was because the powers that be in the BCS didn't want to give two mid-major teams the ability to face power conference teams and get scalps to burgeon their case for potential BCS inclusion going into 2010. If one or both of those teams had beaten a power conference team and then gone undefeated the next year, how could ANYONE keep them out? Well by not giving them the chance to face a power conference team, they didn't have the chance to beat one. Keep 'em at the back of the bus. 
There's a reason I'll always refer to the 2010 Fiesta Bowl as the "Separate But Equal Bowl". 

agree, but UCF got the opportunity vs Auburn

and TCU finally parlayed their success on the field into a P5 invite

the deck is stacked, the old boys will force them to walk uphill into the wind while chopping off a leg every chance they get, but it's not impossible

yes, one solid win over Auburn gained UCF more respect than anything else they could have done vs the AAC or P5 teams like Maryland or Georgia Tech

Florida State used to be a G5 school.  What did they do?  They played big-boy teams on the road.  No home-and-home.  They were an independent, which helped them schedule more tough teams, but still.  If UCF or Boise or whoever wants to be treated "fairly", then their schedules must be even with the P5 schools'.  

Yes, it takes time.  Yes, it's an uphill climb.  But yes, it can be done.  It has been done.  So do it.

With an 8-team playoff, we are guaranteed of having 2-loss NCs.  Perhaps a 3-loss NC.  Guaranteed, on a long-enough timeline.  We are guaranteed of having two schools play each other 3 times.  Auburn and Georgia would've possible done so this year, in an 8-team playoff.

I feel like if your favorite schools hasn't experienced some top-5 games with a rival in late November, you aren't able to understand the point here.  Florida and FSU played each other in late November and were both top-10 teams for over a decade straight.  Those games were massive, yuge battles because everything was on the line.  OSU-Michigan is similar, as is the Iron Bowl.  Lump USC-ND in there if you wish (although not in late Nov).  

Those season-ending games lose all importance with an 8-team playoff.  If both are in the top 5, then who wins largely doesn't matter.  Why in the holy hell would we want to circumcise the biggest regular season games???

If every conference was on equal footing, a champs-only playoff would be great.
But they aren't.

If everyone played a similar schedule, then I'd be anyone's advocate to be in the playoff.
But they don't.

It used to be, if you lose, you can't complain if you're left out.
Now it's if you lose twice, you can't complain if you're left out.....yet we have 2-loss teams complaining.
So if we go to 8 teams, we'll have 3-loss teams complaining they're left out.
No thanks.

The NFL already exists, guys.  9-7 teams "get hot" and win the SB.  That's already a thing.  Wild cards and 3rd place division teams in the playoffs.  
Let's not have 2 NFLs.

Let's have the most important regular season of any sport.  Please?

clemson was a conference champ

that's everyone's bitch regarding bama

the committee says conference champs are important and get more weight

and then they don't

CFB is in this place because people want to crown a champion, and were unsatisfied with the beauty pageant. 

people were just unsatisfied
they will pick a reason
no matter where this CFB championship thing goes, people will be unstatisfied
so they will pick at something and howl for change