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Topic: Breaking up Bama: How to save college football?

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Re: Breaking up Bama: How to save college football?
« Reply #518 on: February 01, 2021, 09:20:42 AM »
A much higher MW obviously will push automation forward faster.  The French McDs already have kiosk ordering stations.  That would happen faster here obviously.  Folks trying to get a start in the job market would find automation had replaced their options.

We already have seen how the checkout lanes at Walmart have almost disappeared.  They might have one lane open.

I notice around here a LOT of food take out orders  being transported by Uber Eats etc.  I took a photo of the mini-iPads yesterday where we ate, each one is dedicated to a different transport of food company.  They were doing more business with takeout than dine in.

I think they have 6-7 mini iPads going.

And one server.  Some of this is COVID related of course.  And of course many skilled jobs today pay $15, so they have to be paid more as well.  This turns into inflation of course, so everyone ends up where they started, at best.

Set it at $12 and add a COLA and be done with it.

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« Reply #519 on: February 01, 2021, 09:54:18 AM »
So, a Big Mac will then cost $15 and a cup of coffee at Starbucks $10.

And the minimum wagers still couldn't afford them. And frankly, at $15, they might not even have jobs.

When we were driving down here last Fall we stopped at a McDonald's for a quick bite. There was nobody taking orders - it was electronic. Nobody taking money. Only one person behind the counter, handing out bags and drink cups.

Yeah, the last time I went inside our closest McDonald's, before COVID hit, it was the same.  Eletronic ordering kiosks, and one person at the front delivering bags of food and cups, for the self-serve drinks.

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Re: Breaking up Bama: How to save college football?
« Reply #520 on: February 01, 2021, 10:27:54 AM »
we even have McD's kiosk ordering stations here in flyover great white north country

older folks hate em
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« Reply #521 on: February 01, 2021, 10:30:48 AM »
Or just pay the high school kids to work the after school jobs.
high school kids and semi retired folks are the people that should be working for the minimum

folks that need a "living" wage should get a better job
maybe not as easy as it should be, but effort and persistence should get you a job paying $15/hour most places

if the place you live is worse than that, it may be time to pick up and move
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Re: Breaking up Bama: How to save college football?
« Reply #522 on: February 01, 2021, 10:36:00 AM »
The Biden Administration has proposed raising the federal minimum wage from $7.25 to $15 an hour as part of its COVID-19 economic relief plan. Some believe that Congress could raise the minimum wage with a simple majority vote in the Senate by utilizing the budget reconciliation process. An increase in the minimum wage—particularly one as substantial as what is being proposed—would benefit some workers but harm others by pricing them out of the labor market. The labor supply side data indicate that there are millions of unemployed workers who are low skilled and have lower educational attainment. These workers would likely remain disconnected from work as a result of a $15 minimum wage. On the demand side, many businesses face plummeting net revenues and even closing; this is particularly true of the small businesses already damaged by the COVID-19 recession that disproportionately hire those workers. An increase to a $15 minimum wage would not only slow recovery but would likely hurt many of the very workers it is intended to help.

Consequences of Increasing the Minimum Wage

https://www.americanactionforum.org/insight/examining-the-effects-of-raising-the-federal-minimum-wage-to-15/



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Re: Breaking up Bama: How to save college football?
« Reply #523 on: February 01, 2021, 10:53:27 AM »
high school kids and semi retired folks are the people that should be working for the minimum

folks that need a "living" wage should get a better job
maybe not as easy as it should be, but effort and persistence should get you a job paying $15/hour most places

if the place you live is worse than that, it may be time to pick up and move
LMAO
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Re: Breaking up Bama: How to save college football?
« Reply #524 on: February 01, 2021, 10:57:18 AM »

Just go get a better job.  

Sounds like something someone said to pipeline workers last week.
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Re: Breaking up Bama: How to save college football?
« Reply #525 on: February 01, 2021, 11:02:11 AM »
...and coal miners the week before that. 
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Re: Breaking up Bama: How to save college football?
« Reply #526 on: February 01, 2021, 11:08:46 AM »
Just go get a better job.
Sounds like something someone said to pipeline workers last week.
...and coal miners the week before that.
It definitely should be said to Pro Athletes,GOD doesn't make that kind of coin.Wish the NFL Owners as much as I despise them would set up a pay scale.These posers turning down millions because they think they're  worth20-30 million  a year.C'mon meteorite
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Re: Breaking up Bama: How to save college football?
« Reply #527 on: February 01, 2021, 01:18:53 PM »
Or just pay the high school kids to work the after school jobs.
What businesses would this apply to?

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« Reply #528 on: February 01, 2021, 01:20:33 PM »
high school kids and semi retired folks are the people that should be working for the minimum

folks that need a "living" wage should get a better job
maybe not as easy as it should be, but effort and persistence should get you a job paying $15/hour most places

if the place you live is worse than that, it may be time to pick up and move
Economically, this is the correct answer. 

Man, getting a lot of folks to leave where they're from, that ain't easy. 

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Re: Breaking up Bama: How to save college football?
« Reply #529 on: February 01, 2021, 01:21:35 PM »
Used to be we took pride in being able to raise your family by working in a factory.  I guess if the factory produces hamburgers, screw the workers.

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Re: Breaking up Bama: How to save college football?
« Reply #530 on: February 01, 2021, 01:29:27 PM »
A much higher MW obviously will push automation forward faster.  The French McDs already have kiosk ordering stations.  That would happen faster here obviously.  Folks trying to get a start in the job market would find automation had replaced their options.

We already have seen how the checkout lanes at Walmart have almost disappeared.  They might have one lane open.

I notice around here a LOT of food take out orders  being transported by Uber Eats etc.  I took a photo of the mini-iPads yesterday where we ate, each one is dedicated to a different transport of food company.  They were doing more business with takeout than dine in.

I think they have 6-7 mini iPads going.

And one server.  Some of this is COVID related of course.  And of course many skilled jobs today pay $15, so they have to be paid more as well.  This turns into inflation of course, so everyone ends up where they started, at best.

Set it at $12 and add a COLA and be done with it.
This is interesting because we've lost tons of low-skill jobs in the past 50 years. Lost them faster than we gained skilled people.

When we automate so many things, it'll be interesting to see if we can invent enough valuable jobs to maintain our social structure. Like, at some point, what if we just automate down the number of jobs in a big way?

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Re: Breaking up Bama: How to save college football?
« Reply #531 on: February 01, 2021, 01:37:59 PM »
Used to be we took pride in being able to raise your family by working in a factory.  I guess if the factory produces hamburgers, screw the workers.
Most of my family has worked in factories. Those jobs require skill, and in many cases, great skill.

Flipping a burger is not that.
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