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Topic: Breaking up Bama: How to save college football?

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Re: Breaking up Bama: How to save college football?
« Reply #462 on: January 29, 2021, 01:38:38 PM »
So, with whom was $15 a compromise?  Who negotiated both sides of that?

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« Reply #463 on: January 29, 2021, 01:39:34 PM »
A compromise with what?  It would be the highest MW in the history of the country by over $3 an hour.  With whom did someone compromise and why?

What figure would be "enough"?  Let's consider that instead.  It's as viable as $15 for most Republicans.
Most republicans wouldn't have a minimum wage, despite most of their voters earning as such.  It's amazing, actually.
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Re: Breaking up Bama: How to save college football?
« Reply #464 on: January 29, 2021, 01:42:32 PM »
You said $15 was already a compromise figure.  With whom was that compromised or negotiated?  

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Re: Breaking up Bama: How to save college football?
« Reply #465 on: January 29, 2021, 01:43:02 PM »
$15 an hour was already a compromise, due to the inflation/stagnant wages for 2+ decades.  It's still not "enough," but it beats slave poverty wages.
In what sense is $15 a compromise?  Between what and what, or who and who?

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« Reply #466 on: January 29, 2021, 01:48:17 PM »
So, with whom was $15 a compromise?  Who negotiated both sides of that?
Fast-food workers striking - getting paid minimum wage, but having to buy their uniforms, etc - so actually making less than minimum wage.  
Why 15 precisely?  Probably because it's a round number and 10 is too little and 20 is too much.  
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« Reply #467 on: January 29, 2021, 01:48:48 PM »
In what sense is $15 a compromise?  Between what and what, or who and who?
You don't need to post the same thing 3 times.  Settle down.
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« Reply #468 on: January 29, 2021, 02:10:09 PM »
Most republicans wouldn't have a minimum wage, despite most of their voters earning as such.  It's amazing, actually.
most folks that voted republican are making less the $15/hour?

what percentage of the population in the US is making minimum wage?  5% or less?
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« Reply #469 on: January 29, 2021, 02:17:04 PM »
Minimum wage absolutely has to increase. People have to be paid a living wage. You cannot have levels of inequality in a society that right now have become the worst it's ever been- even worse since the roaring 20's. The minimum wage has been $7.25 for 11 years. Who the hell can live off of $7.25 an hour? Oh yeah, no one. Inflation exists. You know. We might not feel it as much as we should and it isn't runaway inflation in part because of the insane wealth gap in this country- but it is there. No one can live off of $7.25 an hour. That's why you have millions of employees from Walmart or McDonald's living on government subsidies.

Whether we like it or not- millions of people are stuck into low paying jobs. Why? OFF-SHORING. Things like NAFTA and the permanent normalizing of trade relations with China- which lead to China joining the WTO- have absolutely destroyed and gutted millions of good paying American manufacturing jobs. Michigan alone- which was the epicenter of manufacturing in the US- lost half of all of it's manufacturing jobs from 2000-2008 alone. Why? A lot of those plants/jobs were out-sourced off to China. I know a little bit about this shit because my grandfather is in that business. He used to have stupid retarded cash flow in the 70s, 80s, and even 90s. He was selling machines and parts every single day. He had money coming out of his ass. He used to carry around $20,000 in cash on him at all times. That shit is GONE. Most of his customers have been wiped out or gone to China or Mexico. Not as easy to do business in other countries as it is in your own backyard.

Cannot stand when people say- hey just find a better job. Like it's really so simple or that easy. Reminds me of the idiots in the Democratic party that say hey- just shut up and learn to code. 

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« Reply #470 on: January 29, 2021, 02:27:19 PM »

Cannot stand when people say- hey just find a better job. Like it's really so simple or that easy. Reminds me of the idiots in the Democratic party that say hey- just shut up and learn to code.
Good post but I have a ? What's that
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« Reply #471 on: January 29, 2021, 02:36:32 PM »

Cannot stand when people say- hey just find a better job. Like it's really so simple or that easy. Reminds me of the idiots in the Democratic party that say hey- just shut up and learn to code.
I'm sure there are unfortunate places  of poverty in America that better jobs are not available.  And those folks do need options that include better pay than $7.25

I'm very fortunate.  Iowa, Nebraska, South Dakota don't have large groups of people living in similar hopeless conditions.

It's easy enough to get a better job here.  You may be required to actually show up and give some effort, and you may be asked to pee in a cup once in a while, but there are companies here that have had $15-$20/hour job openings for years that they aren't able to fill.  Even with illegal immigrants taking jobs.
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« Reply #472 on: January 29, 2021, 02:37:40 PM »
Good post but I have a ? What's that
it's some insanely stupid shit corrupt powerful morons in the DNC like Rahm Emanuel kept saying about all the millions of people who've lost energy/manufacturing jobs- hey forget your job- go learn how to computer program at the age of 40, 50, 60. 

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Re: Breaking up Bama: How to save college football?
« Reply #473 on: January 29, 2021, 02:51:53 PM »
Some folks make things up from  nothing to post here and then get ornery when anyone calls them out on it.

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« Reply #474 on: January 29, 2021, 02:58:40 PM »

Name one eager Reddit customer,J/K
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Re: Breaking up Bama: How to save college football?
« Reply #475 on: January 29, 2021, 03:09:51 PM »
More anecdotes.  Great.  Might as well be talking to a wall.
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