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Topic: Breaking up Bama: How to save college football?

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OrangeAfroMan

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Re: Breaking up Bama: How to save college football?
« Reply #448 on: January 29, 2021, 12:19:51 PM »
If you're content with your current income, you're not going to work longer hours to make more very often.

The Unintended Consequences Of Raising Minimum Wage To $15 (forbes.com)

These things sound good but have unintended obvious consequences that should be considered.

As I said, the highest MW in our history is under $12.  What is magical about $15?  Is it not worthwhile to consider consequences and pose other figures?  Maybe $20 would be better.

$15 an hour was already a compromise, due to the inflation/stagnant wages for 2+ decades.  It's still not "enough," but it beats slave poverty wages.
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« Reply #449 on: January 29, 2021, 12:21:54 PM »
correct, I'm curious as to the percentage.  Because of course there are plenty that gladly enjoy the time away from work as well.
My guess is the ambitious folks are fewer than the less ambitious.  40/60?  30/70?
Again, this rings as tone-deaf. 
It's not about ambition, it's about survival.  People work more hours because they NEED to.  
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Re: Breaking up Bama: How to save college football?
« Reply #450 on: January 29, 2021, 12:26:40 PM »
$15 an hour was already a compromise, due to the inflation/stagnant wages for 2+ decades.  It's still not "enough," but it beats slave poverty wages.

A compromise with what?  It would be the highest MW in the history of the country by over $3 an hour.  With whom did someone compromise and why?

What figure would be "enough"?  Let's consider that instead.  It's as viable as $15 for most Republicans.

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« Reply #451 on: January 29, 2021, 12:29:52 PM »
A compromise with what?  It would be the highest MW in the history of the country by over $3 an hour.  With whom did someone compromise and why?

What figure would be "enough"?  Let's consider that instead.  It's as viable as $15 for most Republicans.
We should just make the minimum wage $100/hour, then everybody can be rich!  Economics is so simple!

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Re: Breaking up Bama: How to save college football?
« Reply #452 on: January 29, 2021, 12:31:37 PM »
Is the minimum wage meant to be a living wage?

Should it be?


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Re: Breaking up Bama: How to save college football?
« Reply #453 on: January 29, 2021, 12:32:22 PM »
Modern Monetary Theory.

See Hungary circa 1945.


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Re: Breaking up Bama: How to save college football?
« Reply #454 on: January 29, 2021, 12:33:43 PM »

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« Reply #455 on: January 29, 2021, 12:40:35 PM »
Is the minimum wage meant to be a living wage?

Should it be?


why should a high school kid living with their parents have a living wage job?
it's a part time after school job at McDonalds 
for folks that aren't going to school or aren't semi retired, thay need a living wage.  They should find and keep a job that pays more than the minimum.

part time work at Burger King or Walmart shouldn't be your career
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« Reply #456 on: January 29, 2021, 12:45:23 PM »
Again, this rings as tone-deaf.
It's not about ambition, it's about survival.  People work more hours because they NEED to. 
my daughter would probably work more hours if she wasn't living in my basement

I always worked more hours because I wanted more money, not because I needed it to survive.

there's a certain percentage of the population that just aren't motivated to work.  Some at all, some not very much.

ambitious folks don't worry about minimum wage, they are making more than that.  They also don't worry about 30 or 40 hours, they are working that much per week or more.
just making enough to survive isn't what I'd call ambition
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Re: Breaking up Bama: How to save college football?
« Reply #457 on: January 29, 2021, 12:46:37 PM »
Out it at $12 and attach a COLA.

Done, next issue.  And yes, that would cost jobs.

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« Reply #458 on: January 29, 2021, 01:14:10 PM »
The 30 hour mandate comes from Obamacare which is a Federal Law so it includes Iowa. 

I'm not sure how it works for servers and bartenders because I don't handle payroll for any servers or bartenders so that is not in my wheelhouse. 
I'd have to check, but I thought the 30-hour thing only applied to businesses with >=50 employees. 

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Re: Breaking up Bama: How to save college football?
« Reply #459 on: January 29, 2021, 01:36:39 PM »
why should a high school kid living with their parents have a living wage job?
it's a part time after school job at McDonalds
for folks that aren't going to school or aren't semi retired, thay need a living wage.  They should find and keep a job that pays more than the minimum.

part time work at Burger King or Walmart shouldn't be your career
Too many "shoulds" here.  What should be and what is isn't the same.  You're just willing to multiply the homeless population here.
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Re: Breaking up Bama: How to save college football?
« Reply #460 on: January 29, 2021, 01:37:26 PM »
my daughter would probably work more hours if she wasn't living in my basement

I always worked more hours because I wanted more money, not because I needed it to survive.

More anecdotes.  Great.  Might as well be talking to a wall.
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Re: Breaking up Bama: How to save college football?
« Reply #461 on: January 29, 2021, 01:38:35 PM »
We should just make the minimum wage $100/hour, then everybody can be rich!  Economics is so simple!
Thanks for your contribution.  
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