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Topic: Breaking up Bama: How to save college football?

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Re: Breaking up Bama: How to save college football?
« Reply #434 on: January 29, 2021, 08:53:15 AM »
it's a win - win

businesses don't want employees working 40 hours because benefits kick in

many many employees don't want to work 40 hours, because they just don't want to work that much

everybody is happy

I'd guess if the minimum wage is raised significantly, many folks will work fewer hours and live at the same income level as before
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Re: Breaking up Bama: How to save college football?
« Reply #435 on: January 29, 2021, 09:07:38 AM »
Benefits kick in at 30 hours.
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Re: Breaking up Bama: How to save college football?
« Reply #436 on: January 29, 2021, 09:10:36 AM »
it's a win - win

businesses don't want employees working 40 hours because benefits kick in

many many employees don't want to work 40 hours, because they just don't want to work that much

everybody is happy

I'd guess if the minimum wage is raised significantly, many folks will work fewer hours and live at the same income level as before
I’d assume there are plenty of people in that income range who would gladly trade those few extra hours for more money and benefits that don’t come through the government.

That’s a pretty common thing.

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Re: Breaking up Bama: How to save college football?
« Reply #437 on: January 29, 2021, 09:14:35 AM »
Benefits kick in at 30 hours.
Appreciate that info. I know the 37.5 hour thing used to be a thing. Suppose that change has pluses and minuses. 

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Re: Breaking up Bama: How to save college football?
« Reply #438 on: January 29, 2021, 09:19:10 AM »

I'd guess if the minimum wage is raised significantly, many folks will work fewer hours and live at the same income level as before
I recall one study that showed exactly this as a common feature.  

I would like to test a system that simply ensured every adult got $13,000 a year with zero additional benefits.  Here ya go, bye.  Nobody would be in poverty.

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Re: Breaking up Bama: How to save college football?
« Reply #439 on: January 29, 2021, 09:24:57 AM »
it's a win - win

businesses don't want employees working 40 hours because benefits kick in

many many employees don't want to work 40 hours, because they just don't want to work that much

everybody is happy

This makes me think you've never needed any extra money to make ends meet.  I'm not saying that's the case, but boy...it sure seems like it with this take.  
This may be true of a 2-income household, when one makes plenty of money, but otherwise....no.
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Re: Breaking up Bama: How to save college football?
« Reply #440 on: January 29, 2021, 09:25:15 AM »


I'd guess if the minimum wage is raised significantly, many folks will work fewer hours and live at the same income level as before
This sounds like a good thing.
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Re: Breaking up Bama: How to save college football?
« Reply #441 on: January 29, 2021, 09:44:50 AM »
A good thing would be to amplify opportunities for the working poor to become middle class folks, not to have them work fewer hours and remain poor.

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Re: Breaking up Bama: How to save college football?
« Reply #442 on: January 29, 2021, 10:31:18 AM »
Well of course, but if Wally World isn't giving them the hours to do that, then living with the same means and more leisure time is a plus for that person, no?
I know my side gig that has produced some income was born of having free time during the summer.  With more free time, a person has the luxury to wonder and think and read and toil.  
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At least if that person is an industrious mouse, anyway.
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Re: Breaking up Bama: How to save college football?
« Reply #443 on: January 29, 2021, 11:10:55 AM »
If you're content with your current income, you're not going to work longer hours to make more very often.

The Unintended Consequences Of Raising Minimum Wage To $15 (forbes.com)

These things sound good but have unintended obvious consequences that should be considered.

As I said, the highest MW in our history is under $12.  What is magical about $15?  Is it not worthwhile to consider consequences and pose other figures?  Maybe $20 would be better.

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Re: Breaking up Bama: How to save college football?
« Reply #444 on: January 29, 2021, 11:24:26 AM »
Appreciate that info. I know the 37.5 hour thing used to be a thing. Suppose that change has pluses and minuses.
I'm not certain, but I don't think this has changed in Iowa

perhaps it doesn't apply to servers & bartenders

it applied to dental hygienists - vast majority of dental offices wouldn't allow Hygienists to work 40 to avoid benifits 
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Re: Breaking up Bama: How to save college football?
« Reply #445 on: January 29, 2021, 11:27:41 AM »
I’d assume there are plenty of people in that income range who would gladly trade those few extra hours for more money and benefits that don’t come through the government.

That’s a pretty common thing.
correct, I'm curious as to the percentage.  Because of course there are plenty that gladly enjoy the time away from work as well.
My guess is the ambitious folks are fewer than the less ambitious.  40/60?  30/70?
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Re: Breaking up Bama: How to save college football?
« Reply #446 on: January 29, 2021, 11:33:38 AM »
This makes me think you've never needed any extra money to make ends meet.  I'm not saying that's the case, but boy...it sure seems like it with this take. 
This may be true of a 2-income household, when one makes plenty of money, but otherwise....no.
it was a short period of time from starting college in 1981 until I dropped out in 84 to make money and avoid more student loans.

there's a certain percentage of folks that would rather barely get by (homeless or not) and would look for the government to help make ends meet instead of working a more demanding job or more hours.

a more demanding job might mean more physical labor or it may mean merely drug testing to qualify
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Re: Breaking up Bama: How to save college football?
« Reply #447 on: January 29, 2021, 12:01:46 PM »
I'm not certain, but I don't think this has changed in Iowa

perhaps it doesn't apply to servers & bartenders

it applied to dental hygienists - vast majority of dental offices wouldn't allow Hygienists to work 40 to avoid benifits
The 30 hour mandate comes from Obamacare which is a Federal Law so it includes Iowa.  

I'm not sure how it works for servers and bartenders because I don't handle payroll for any servers or bartenders so that is not in my wheelhouse.  

 

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