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Topic: Breaking up Bama: How to save college football?

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Re: Breaking up Bama: How to save college football?
« Reply #14 on: January 13, 2021, 05:29:34 PM »
UGA has been close, they have needed that elite level QB like Fields to get there and close the deal.

They even led at the half this year with a much less than elite level QB.  If we played 30 minutes, they would have won the last three.

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Re: Breaking up Bama: How to save college football?
« Reply #15 on: January 13, 2021, 05:35:43 PM »
In the Big Ten for 2021, there are 6 teams ranked closer to Michigan than Michigan is to Ohio State.


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Re: Breaking up Bama: How to save college football?
« Reply #16 on: January 13, 2021, 05:40:21 PM »
...and most of them have already passed the Wolverines, with regards to "on field" results. 
1919, 20, 21, 28, 29, 31, 34, 35, 36, 37, 42, 44
WWH: 1952, 54, 55, 57, 58, 60, 61, 62, 63, 65, 67, 68, 70, 72, 74, 75
1979, 81, 82, 84, 87, 94, 98
2001, 02, 04, 05, 06, 07, 08, 09, 10, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19

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Re: Breaking up Bama: How to save college football?
« Reply #17 on: January 13, 2021, 06:24:59 PM »
Medina, what great research? I love it. There are a couple things imo you are not giving sufficient emphasis. If you will notice Ohio State, LSU and Texas all have one substandard class which dramatically reduces their average ranking. Secondly, the differences between one, two, three, four, etc are usually miniscule. One team has a couple more four or five stars than another which represents very little when spread over 25 kids and three years.                                                                                             

Secondly, Alabama does not dominate recruiting. We do have great recruiting but so do LSU, Georgia, Texas A&M, Ohio State and Clemson. The idea that Alabama gets every recruit it wants is a myth. All these teams have players we wanted. It could be Nick Saban is simply better than everybody else.

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Re: Breaking up Bama: How to save college football?
« Reply #18 on: January 13, 2021, 06:28:21 PM »
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Re: Breaking up Bama: How to save college football?
« Reply #19 on: January 13, 2021, 07:03:24 PM »
While I assume this is mostly in line with how it always is, give or take a little rise in the gap between the top few teams and the next tier.

I wonder if there's a factor of the best teams getting an extra chance or two. Like the SEC mulligan came into play, and you had better teams getting chances they might not otherwise, and then taking advantage. In previous iterations, at least two Bama titles aren't possible, though a couple might also be more likely. 

But you don't have the chance for say that so-so FSU team that went 13-0 in 2014 to get a not-great bowl opponent and back into a title. 

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Re: Breaking up Bama: How to save college football?
« Reply #20 on: January 13, 2021, 09:39:25 PM »
Helluva post, Medina.

Alabama is just a perfect storm where everything is aligned - talent, coaching, recruiting, tradition, luck, and consistency.  The most amazing aspect of it is how Saban loses coordinators left and right, over and over, but remains consistent...because he demands it.  
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Florida needs to get back up there, because we all know UGA isn't going to get over the hump, lol.  Specifically, in regards to UF/ALA recruiting, the Gators need to keep some of those IMG kids in-state.  Bama has a pipeline at a football 'magnet' school and it drives me mad.  The fact that FSU is a dumpster fire should help......yes, FSU's incompetence could help bring down Bama.  
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Re: Breaking up Bama: How to save college football?
« Reply #21 on: January 13, 2021, 10:17:29 PM »
I just created 2020 Bama for the Whoa Nellie game.  Here's some notes:
Their yards per pass and yards per rush were exactly the same as last year (rounded):  11.0 per pass att, 5.0 per rush att.
Their average score was 49-19.  That differential (30 ppg) is among the elite teams of all-time.  
They averaged longer punt returns than kick returns.  Blame DeVonta Smith and their leading KR being a TE.
Their defense (in terms of yards per play allowed) was a smidge better than LSU's from last year (a hair better in run D).
Their kicker didn't miss a kick all year, of any kind.
Their defense was very average, for a NC.  I've created levels of pass and rush D, and the best are -8/-4.  Their defense is -2/-3.  I'd have to look at it, but this is probably Saban's worst pass D ever.  
Mac Jones' 77% comp rate and 1% INT rate are sick and nearly identical to Joe Burrow's from '19.
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Re: Breaking up Bama: How to save college football?
« Reply #22 on: January 14, 2021, 05:19:51 AM »
Alabama is a problem for the NCAA and SEC.  In past years the way Alabama handled scholarships was considered a problem.

Much of the issue with Alabama would go away if the NCAA dumped the playoffs.
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Re: Breaking up Bama: How to save college football?
« Reply #23 on: January 14, 2021, 06:37:14 AM »
Seems sorta overkill - Bama got boatraced just two years ago in the championship game.  I think the bigger issue is the same handful of programs dominate the scene every year, and you just roll the dice and see which one lands on top.  

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Re: Breaking up Bama: How to save college football?
« Reply #24 on: January 14, 2021, 07:15:36 AM »
It is interesting to note the programs that have made the CFP twice or more versus all others, I think the list is Bama OSU Clemson ND, who oddly enough all made it this season, in an unusual season.  I think no other team has made it twice.

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Re: Breaking up Bama: How to save college football?
« Reply #25 on: January 14, 2021, 08:47:44 AM »
Oklahoma 4 times. They have yet to win, however.
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Re: Breaking up Bama: How to save college football?
« Reply #26 on: January 14, 2021, 09:01:01 AM »
Heh, and I nearly forgot about ND too.

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Re: Breaking up Bama: How to save college football?
« Reply #27 on: January 14, 2021, 10:42:10 AM »
If a team goes twice or more and nobody notices, were they really there? 
1919, 20, 21, 28, 29, 31, 34, 35, 36, 37, 42, 44
WWH: 1952, 54, 55, 57, 58, 60, 61, 62, 63, 65, 67, 68, 70, 72, 74, 75
1979, 81, 82, 84, 87, 94, 98
2001, 02, 04, 05, 06, 07, 08, 09, 10, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19

 

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