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Hawkinole · « **Reply #1008 on:** January 02, 2020, 10:32:00 AM »

Quote from: Honestbuckeye on January 02, 2020, 10:20:34 AM

I specifically remember that play. He was called for holding because he had the intent to hold he just missed. It was another horrible call in a sea of them this last few days

Now as you mention it I recall this too. A Wisconsin player apparently reached and to try and hold and completely whiffed. He whiffed as bad as Wisconsin's punter whiffed. The holding shouldn't have been called. I don't recall what happened in sequence afterward following the whiffed holding and whether it affected the game.

Cincydawg · « **Reply #1009 on:** January 02, 2020, 11:21:56 AM »

Bowl results that really surprised me:

Texas whomping Utah has to be high on the list.

Minnesota manhandling Auburn.

LaTech shutting out the Canes 14-0. I'm not shocked they won.

I thought Baylor would beat UGA ugly, but it's not a real shock to me.

Anything else? LSU hanging 63 on the Sooners?

CatsbyAZ · « **Reply #1010 on:** January 02, 2020, 11:33:36 AM »

Positive, upbeat article on the Arizona Bowl making ground: https://tucson.com/sports/greghansen/greg-hansen-arizona-bowl-founder-promises-to-keep-local-flavor/article_1eca10f0-bc3a-538c-a5b5-3a2957752c21.html

In five years of existence, the Arizona Bowl has (a) moved coaches to tears, (b) been the site of a field-storming celebration and (c) generally out-kicked its coverage.
It has yet to put a Top 25 team on the field, and yet the Arizona Bowl has sold more than 150,000 tickets for games involving teams from the Mountain West and Sun Belt conferences.
It works. It almost defies modern sports marketing where “bigger” sells and “little” fades away.

Cincydawg · « **Reply #1011 on:** January 02, 2020, 11:34:48 AM »

The Las Vegas Bowl could become major or close to it in a few.

Entropy · « **Reply #1012 on:** January 02, 2020, 11:44:49 AM »

The Pac12 conference championship loser is now 0-9 in bowl games.

Cincydawg · « **Reply #1013 on:** January 02, 2020, 11:48:05 AM »

Do you have stats on all CG losers in bowl games? I'm guessing the winning pct is about .300.

I know UGA lost last year. Baylor lost this year. Wisconsin lost this year (on the scoreboard). UVA lost of course. The only winner was perforce.

Entropy · « **Reply #1014 on:** January 02, 2020, 11:51:57 AM »

I don't have those details. ....But your impression would match mine.

Gigem · « **Reply #1015 on:** January 02, 2020, 11:55:42 AM »

Wisconsin gave that one away with the late fumble. It's tough but they had their chances, refs aside. I thought that OPI call was very questionable.

Baylor vs. UGa...Baylor caught a tough one here even with a depleted UGa. Did anybody else see Matt Rhule hock a big loogie and get it right in the middle of his art smock shirt? Gross as hell.

I have a good setup for multiple games...Youtube TV with multiple monitors. You can pull up as many windows as you want, but I find that two games are enough for me.

betarhoalphadelta · « **Reply #1016 on:** January 02, 2020, 12:03:26 PM »

Quote from: MaximumSam on January 02, 2020, 07:32:08 AM

7 pm, ESPN
TaxSlayer Gator Bowl
Tennessee v. Indiana

Thanks to some truly rotten luck, the Big Ten is 4-4 in bowls instead of 6-2 and now needs a Hoosier win to get above .500. Their task is to take down the mighty Volunteers of Tennessee. Perhaps the most puzzling movement I've seen this year was the cry for Jeremy Pruitt to win coach of the year in the SEC after going 7-5 with losses to Georgia State and BYU. I read one article that he led "the greatest turnaround in program history" after close wins over Kentucky and Missouri. In any event, Tennessee does play pretty good defense and the Hoosiers can move the ball, although they lost their offensive coordinator so how they move on from that will be a question.

This game, to an extent, reminds me of the Purdue/Auburn game last year in the Music City Bowl... A game that I'm painfully unable to forget.

Essentially it was a team that had punched above its weight to an extent to make it to a bowl game at all at 6-6, against a much more talented (per the STARZ on the roster) team that had a few bad breaks to fall to a 7-5 record.

In some sense it came down to who really wanted to be there (I was hoping Auburn would be disinterested), but if both teams came to play, the talent disparity was ENORMOUS and far too large to overcome. Sadly, the latter scenario happened and Purdue got run off the field.

I don't like this site's methodology (I think it overweights freshmen), but they have the 4-year recruiting ranking of Tennessee at 17th in the nation, and of Indiana at 41st in the nation. https://www.sbnation.com/college-football-recruiting/2019/2/7/18215228/college-football-recruiting-rankings-2019-class

That's a problem, if Tennessee comes in with a chip on their shoulder.

I suspect that Indiana, by virtue of an easy schedule, is not as good as their 8-4 record would suggest. And Tennessee is a lot more talented than their 7-5 record would imply, considering the team at the end of 2019 would likely have beaten Georgia State to be 9-3 and in a more prominent bowl.

FearlessF · « **Reply #1017 on:** January 02, 2020, 01:39:23 PM »

I like the Hoosiers in this one. They are happy as hell to be there and are motivated to get that 9th win.

I think they have a very good coach.

But, I've been wrong about more bowl games than right, this season

Cincydawg · « **Reply #1018 on:** January 02, 2020, 03:44:10 PM »

I think Tennessee has more talent, to the extent that matters, and I suspect their motivation will be decent given where they were at 1-4, with Alabama left to play. I'm not sure about Pruitt at all. The Vols have "indifferent" quarterbacking. This is another game that could hinge simply on something like a 3-1 TO margin, or heaven forbid some critical referee call. Indiana is 8-4 and their most impressive "win" was probably the close loss to PSU. The Vols are 7-3 and their most impressive win is, well, they led Georgia for part of the first half. Well, they did win at Kentucky, and UK wasn't that bad.

MaximumSam · « **Reply #1019 on:** January 02, 2020, 03:52:56 PM »

Quote from: bwarbiany on January 02, 2020, 12:03:26 PM

This game, to an extent, reminds me of the Purdue/Auburn game last year in the Music City Bowl... A game that I'm painfully unable to forget.

Essentially it was a team that had punched above its weight to an extent to make it to a bowl game at all at 6-6, against a much more talented (per the STARZ on the roster) team that had a few bad breaks to fall to a 7-5 record.

In some sense it came down to who really wanted to be there (I was hoping Auburn would be disinterested), but if both teams came to play, the talent disparity was ENORMOUS and far too large to overcome. Sadly, the latter scenario happened and Purdue got run off the field.

I don't like this site's methodology (I think it overweights freshmen), but they have the 4-year recruiting ranking of Tennessee at 17th in the nation, and of Indiana at 41st in the nation. https://www.sbnation.com/college-football-recruiting/2019/2/7/18215228/college-football-recruiting-rankings-2019-class

That's a problem, if Tennessee comes in with a chip on their shoulder.

I suspect that Indiana, by virtue of an easy schedule, is not as good as their 8-4 record would suggest. And Tennessee is a lot more talented than their 7-5 record would imply, considering the team at the end of 2019 would likely have beaten Georgia State to be 9-3 and in a more prominent bowl.

Maybe, though last year auburn finished 7th in SP+ and Purdue 44th. This year Tennessee is 32 and Indiana 24

betarhoalphadelta · « **Reply #1020 on:** January 02, 2020, 04:08:20 PM »

Quote from: MaximumSam on January 02, 2020, 03:52:56 PM

Maybe, though last year auburn finished 7th in SP+ and Purdue 44th. This year Tennessee is 32 and Indiana 24

Fair enough. ESPN FPI has Tennessee 30th and Indiana 35th, which isn't a big gap.

Indiana won 7 games against FBS opponents, with a combined winning percentage of 28.6%. Not a single team they beat finished the year with a winning record.

Tennessee won 6 games against FBS opponents, with a combined winning percentage of 48.6% (regular season, bowls excluded). 4 of those 6 teams finished bowl-eligible.

Is SP+ adjusted for strength of schedule? Because Tennessee's was definitely tougher.

ELA · « **Reply #1021 on:** January 02, 2020, 04:10:27 PM »

If your team draws Boston College in a bowl game at this point, is there any point in even planning on there being a game?

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