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Re: Bowling For Burgers
« Reply #672 on: December 30, 2019, 01:56:17 PM »
I'd like to see that Miracle Whip just go away. It's gross. Like Dr. Pepper, almost.
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Re: Bowling For Burgers
« Reply #673 on: December 30, 2019, 02:01:25 PM »
Yeah I had never picked up on that particular idiosyncrasy until adulthood. She favors blue cheese or Italian when eating an actual salad. Yet she was completely mystified that I would think that "salad dressing" might refer to any condiment other than miracle whip. At first I thought that she was just screwing with me, but she has done it consistently ever since.
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Re: Bowling For Burgers
« Reply #674 on: December 30, 2019, 02:26:25 PM »
Miracle whip is kind of like Cool Whip, they are unusual substances but strangely useful in very limited circumstances. 

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Re: Bowling For Burgers
« Reply #675 on: December 30, 2019, 03:26:57 PM »
That fact it costs more than mayonnaise strikes me as reason not to buy it.  


    • 1 large egg yolk, at room temperature 30 minutes
    • 1/2 teaspoon Dijon mustard
    • 3/4 cup olive or vegetable oil (or a combination), divided
    • 1 teaspoon white-wine vinegar or cider vinegar
    • 1 1/2 teaspoons fresh lemon juice
    • 1/4 teaspoon white pepper


PREPARATION
    • Whisk together yolk, mustard, and 1/4 teaspoon salt until combined well. Add about 1/4 cup oil drop by drop, whisking constantly until mixture begins to thicken. Whisk in vinegar and lemon juice, then add remaining 1/2 cup oil in a very slow, thin stream, whisking constantly until well blended. If at any time it appears that oil is not being incorporated, stop adding oil and whisk mixture vigorously until smooth, then continue adding oil. Whisk in salt to taste and white pepper. Chill, surface covered with plastic wrap, until ready to use.




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Re: Bowling For Burgers
« Reply #676 on: December 30, 2019, 03:28:19 PM »
Mayonnaise was invented in 1756 by the French chef of the Duc de Richelieu. After the Duc beat the British at Port Mahon, his chef created a victory feast that was to include a sauce made of cream and eggs. ... The chef named the new sauce "Mahonnaise" in honor of the Duc's victory.

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Re: Bowling For Burgers
« Reply #677 on: December 30, 2019, 03:30:51 PM »
This creation tale came under assault a couple of generations later from a French gastronome who sniffed that Port Mahon was not exactly known for its haute cuisine. He felt Gallic provenance was more likely, and that the sauce might originally have been called bayonnaise after Bayonne, a town famous across Europe for its succulent hams. Other advocates of French authorship suggested the name came from manier, meaning “to handle,” or moyeu, an old French word for yolk. By the 1920s, the Spanish were lashing back: a prominent Madrid chef published a pamphlet calling on his countrymen to reject the phony francophone term mayonnaise in favor of salsa mahonesa.

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Re: Bowling For Burgers
« Reply #678 on: December 30, 2019, 03:33:40 PM »
Ketchup comes from the Hokkien Chinese word, kê-tsiap, the name of a sauce derived from fermented fish. It is believed that traders brought fish sauce from Vietnam to southeastern China.

The British likely encountered ketchup in Southeast Asia, returned home, and tried to replicate the fermented dark sauce. This probably happened in the late 17th and early 18th centuries as evidenced by a recipe published in 1732 for “Ketchup in Paste,” by Richard Bradley, which referenced “Bencoulin in the East-Indies” as its origin. (See “How a Food Becomes Famous.”)

But this was certainly not the ketchup we would recognize today. Most British recipes called for ingredients like mushrooms, walnuts, oysters, or anchovies in an effort to reproduce the savory tastes first encountered in Asia. Mushroom ketchup was even a purported favorite of Jane Austen. These early ketchups were mostly thin and dark, and were often added to soups, sauces, meat and fish. At this point, ketchup lacked one important ingredient.

Wiley partnered with a Pittsburgh man named Henry J. Heinz who had started producing ketchup in 1876. Heinz was also convinced American consumers did not want chemicals in their ketchup. In answer to the benzoate controversy, Heinz developed a recipe that used ripe, red tomatoes—which have more of the natural preservative called pectin than the scraps other manufacturers used—and dramatically increased the amount of vinegar and to reduce risk of spoilage. Heinz began producing preservative-free ketchup, and soon dominated the market. In 1905, the company had sold five million bottles of ketchup.

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/culture/food/the-plate/2014/04/21/how-was-ketchup-invented/

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Re: Bowling For Burgers
« Reply #679 on: December 30, 2019, 03:50:16 PM »
Ketchup comes from the Hokkien Chinese word, kê-tsiap, the name of a sauce derived from fermented fish. It is believed that traders brought fish sauce from Vietnam to southeastern China.

The British likely encountered ketchup in Southeast Asia, returned home, and tried to replicate the fermented dark sauce. This probably happened in the late 17th and early 18th centuries as evidenced by a recipe published in 1732 for “Ketchup in Paste,” by Richard Bradley, which referenced “Bencoulin in the East-Indies” as its origin. (See “How a Food Becomes Famous.”)

But this was certainly not the ketchup we would recognize today. Most British recipes called for ingredients like mushrooms, walnuts, oysters, or anchovies in an effort to reproduce the savory tastes first encountered in Asia. Mushroom ketchup was even a purported favorite of Jane Austen. These early ketchups were mostly thin and dark, and were often added to soups, sauces, meat and fish. At this point, ketchup lacked one important ingredient.

Wiley partnered with a Pittsburgh man named Henry J. Heinz who had started producing ketchup in 1876. Heinz was also convinced American consumers did not want chemicals in their ketchup. In answer to the benzoate controversy, Heinz developed a recipe that used ripe, red tomatoes—which have more of the natural preservative called pectin than the scraps other manufacturers used—and dramatically increased the amount of vinegar and to reduce risk of spoilage. Heinz began producing preservative-free ketchup, and soon dominated the market. In 1905, the company had sold five million bottles of ketchup.

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/culture/food/the-plate/2014/04/21/how-was-ketchup-invented/

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Re: Bowling For Burgers
« Reply #680 on: December 30, 2019, 03:54:43 PM »
My i s c & a aggie wife makes her own mayonnaise, it's rather easy and tastes better than every storebought brand.

I know from the commercials that Miracle Whip is called "salad dressing" but even so, I've definitely never heard it uniquely identified that way.  I'd be confused, too.

I don't love Dr. Pepper, but I don't hate it.  Original Coca Cola was always my favorite soft drink, with RC Cola being a close second.  Back in the day, you couldn't find anyone that sold Pepsi around here.  I think it was considered communist.  Now it's more common than it used to be, but still not as prevalent as Coke.  We also have access to a lot of "Mexican Coke" and other "Mexican" soft drinks, which basically means they use cane sugar from the old recipes, rather than HFCS.

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Re: Bowling For Burgers
« Reply #681 on: December 30, 2019, 03:58:48 PM »
I had a friend who would only drink Mexican Coke.  So, as you might guess, I swapped them out on him once, while I drank regular Coke with HCFC in it instead of cane sugar.  He was lording it over me about how he was drinking the "real stuff" and I settled for that swill.

I showed him the bottle.  He refused to believe me.  I can't tell any difference other than price.

The wife loves Coke.  It's huge in France for whatever reason, and there is no Pepsi anywhere I've seen.  I do own a bit of KO stock, so that good.  Oddly, she doesn't like much ice in her drinks, except she puts ice in Champagne, the real stuff, which used to annoy me a lot.

High end wine making involves a lot of processes to get the water out of wine.

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Re: Bowling For Burgers
« Reply #682 on: December 30, 2019, 04:01:50 PM »
Yeah, pretty much all across Europe if you ask for ice in your drink, you're lucky to get one or two cubes.  Or at least, you used to.  It gets a little more Americanized every day.

And ice in Champagne?  Get a rope!

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Re: Bowling For Burgers
« Reply #683 on: December 30, 2019, 04:10:48 PM »
Western won. 

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Re: Bowling For Burgers
« Reply #684 on: December 30, 2019, 04:15:39 PM »
on a 52 yarder with no time on the clock

would have been good from 60, right down the middle
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Re: Bowling For Burgers
« Reply #685 on: December 30, 2019, 04:18:21 PM »
I showed that wasn’t close to being true.
With no context, that info is as useful as a used condom. 

 

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