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ELA

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Re: Bowling For Burgers
« Reply #546 on: December 29, 2019, 12:05:14 AM »
Quote from: Hawkinole on December 29, 2019, 12:02:28 AM
Sheesh. The best team lost.
Penalties and red zone offense matter.  Clemson found the inches.  They shouldn't have just lost, they should have lost decisively.  They didn't.  Bully to them.
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Re: Bowling For Burgers
« Reply #547 on: December 29, 2019, 12:06:02 AM »
Quote from: ELA on December 29, 2019, 12:02:19 AM
I think LSU is going to destroy them.  They probably would've beaten OSU too, but Clemson got every bounce to go their way, and barely won this one.  I don't see how they stay close with the Baton Rouge Tigers
Disagree. 

LSU just played a patsy in the final. 

Clemson got tested by a really good team and responded.

Clemson is now playing for their what- 5th National Championship during the playoff era? Clemson is used to this stage. LSU isn’t. 

I think Clemson wins their 3rd title in the last 4 years. 
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Re: Bowling For Burgers
« Reply #548 on: December 29, 2019, 12:09:50 AM »
This was Clemson's first, and only real test of the season. 

Sure, they have the talent, but the ACC sucks. 

Would love to see "minutes played" as a stat here. 

The weight of a tougher schedule and season plays a part in these games. 

Clemson players had plenty of rest all season. 
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Re: Bowling For Burgers
« Reply #549 on: December 29, 2019, 12:16:27 AM »
Quote from: Mdot21 on December 29, 2019, 12:06:02 AM
Disagree.

LSU just played a patsy in the final.

Clemson got tested by a really good team and responded.

Clemson is now playing for their what- 5th National Championship during the playoff era? Clemson is used to this stage. LSU isn’t.

I think Clemson wins their 3rd title in the last 4 years.
Yes, Oklahoma was clearly not good, but Clemson scored twice on drives extended by penalties, had an OSU TD nullified by a BS review, and had a WR fall down on the final play, just to squeak it out.  OSU outgained them by 100 yards, and that is even with Clemson having 140 yards after drives extended by unforced errors.  Unless OSU shoots themselves in the foot over and over and over, they win in a blowout.  And unless LSU does the same, I don't see how Clemson hangs with them.
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Re: Bowling For Burgers
« Reply #550 on: December 29, 2019, 12:20:31 AM »
my eye test says the better team didn't win, not by a bunch, Clemson is a great team

but you can't have penalties like that cost you a game

the targeting call was the correct call, but didn't need to happen.  Don't tackle high.  Get below the shoulders.  w/o that call Clemson loses the game.

the roughing the punter???  WTH?  player has to know better.  If there's a chance the player doesn't understand, them don't call the play.

the incomplete pass/ fumble - looked like a catch and fumble to me - no reason that call on the field is overturned

great game

great season for the Buckeyes

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« Reply #551 on: December 29, 2019, 12:27:41 AM »
Which is precisely what I hate had been taken away by the CFP.  The fluky regular season loss due to a confluence of penalties, turnovers, and missed opportunities.  So while I don't like this result, I don't dislike getting a meaningful result by these means, for the first time in a while.
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Re: Bowling For Burgers
« Reply #552 on: December 29, 2019, 12:29:14 AM »
Quote from: FearlessF on December 29, 2019, 12:20:31 AM
my eye test says the better team didn't win, not by a bunch, Clemson is a great team

but you can't have penalties like that cost you a game

the targeting call was the correct call, but didn't need to happen.  Don't tackle high.  Get below the shoulders.  w/o that call Clemson loses the game.

the roughing the punter???  WTH?  player has to know better.  If there's a chance the player doesn't understand, them don't call the play.

the incomplete pass/ fumble - looked like a catch and fumble to me - no reason that call on the field is overturned

great game

great season for the Buckeyes


Facts matter.
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Re: Bowling For Burgers
« Reply #553 on: December 29, 2019, 12:32:57 AM »
If Iowa lost last night with all the awful calls and replay BS call, I'd be really upset, as it was utter BS. Iowa's play on the field was overwhelming, but not every game has the best playing team winning over poor officiating.  

Tonight others can decide. It seemed not quite right.
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Re: Bowling For Burgers
« Reply #554 on: December 29, 2019, 12:37:51 AM »
It's funny how you can catch a ball in the endzone with just your hands and it's a TD, but a catch with 2 hands, 4 steps, and a rip, is not a catch and fumble to some.

Amazing. 

Don't think it was targeting either. Had Trevor not ducked down, he gets hit by shoulder pads.

Was a clean tackle IMO. 
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Re: Bowling For Burgers
« Reply #555 on: December 29, 2019, 12:45:36 AM »
Tough loss, but that's how it goes sometimes.  Just not the Buckeyes' night.  Still a great season.
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Re: Bowling For Burgers
« Reply #556 on: December 29, 2019, 12:51:24 AM »
Quote from: FearlessF on December 29, 2019, 12:20:31 AM
my eye test says the better team didn't win, not by a bunch, Clemson is a great team

but you can't have penalties like that cost you a game

the targeting call was the correct call, but didn't need to happen.  Don't tackle high.  Get below the shoulders.  w/o that call Clemson loses the game.

the roughing the punter???  WTH?  player has to know better.  If there's a chance the player doesn't understand, them don't call the play.

the incomplete pass/ fumble - looked like a catch and fumble to me - no reason that call on the field is overturned

great game

great season for the Buckeyes



It's even simpler than that.  Don't lower your head and lead with the crown of the helmet.  That gets called every time. Or maybe it doesn't in the B1G, I don't know, but in every game I've watched for the past several years, it gets called every time.
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Re: Bowling For Burgers
« Reply #557 on: December 29, 2019, 01:00:21 AM »
Quote from: ELA on December 28, 2019, 11:37:54 PM
How is that not targeting on Olave?
He got creamed late in the 3rd beginning of the 4th,no Flag such BS.Next play was Fields 1st pick.But the refs reversed a TD,WTF Scott Van Pelt said it looked like a catch and so did everyone else.Don't mind losing just crap how the #@&^%$ do you reverse a legit TD.I think this should push for solid replay.I saw helmet to helmet on the ejection so can't bitch at that but the *@*#&^% Zebras miss the other shit.Buckeyes botched chances to put them away early
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Re: Bowling For Burgers
« Reply #558 on: December 29, 2019, 01:00:35 AM »
Really feel for Ohio State tonight. Played their guts out and for a number of reasons fate didn’t work out.
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Re: Bowling For Burgers
« Reply #559 on: December 29, 2019, 01:14:55 AM »
Quote from: CatsbyAZ on December 29, 2019, 01:00:35 AM
Really feel for Ohio State tonight. Played their guts out and for a number of reasons fate didn’t work out.
Nah. Clemson is a great team. 

What pisses me off more than anything is they have no competition all year and can practically rest their entire starting group at half time, while OSU had to fight through 4 quarters in most of their games. 

I can't stand the 8 conference games and weak scheduling, along with how terrible the ACC is. 

Had I'd have known the ACC would have gotten so bad, I would have never wanted to leave! 
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