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OrangeAfroMan

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Re: Bowling For Burgers
« Reply #266 on: December 27, 2019, 01:02:42 AM »
Doesn't matter.
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Re: Bowling For Burgers
« Reply #267 on: December 27, 2019, 02:25:21 AM »
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Re: Bowling For Burgers
« Reply #268 on: December 27, 2019, 06:56:41 AM »
Friday Part 1

Noon, ESPN
Military Bowl Presented by Northrop Grumman
North Carolina v. Temple

Nothing says fun like a bowl sponsored by a defense contractor.  Also, wow, does the ACC have some horrendous bowl tie-ins or what?  I guess it matches their horrendous teams.  In any event, Mack Brown has brought North Carolina back to mediocrity.  Temple avoided the Manny Diaz bullet and turned in a pretty good season. SP says this is pretty even with NC at 39 and Temple at 43.

3:20 p,. ESPN
New Era Pinstripe Bowl
Michigan State v. Wake Forest

Finally, some Big Ten action to wake up the senses. Nothing gets the pulse going like some Sparty offense. Usually you get a chance for snow in this New York based game, but some unseasonably warm temps across the north of the country (I slept with my windows open last night) means it's just another game. I always liked Dave Clawson and figured he could show something at a better school, but Wake does have a decently fun offense to watch, and it's always fun to see Sparty turn both teams into empty bean cans. Dantonio forever.

6:45 pm, ESPN
Academy Sports + Outdoors Texas Bowl
Oklahoma State v. Texas A&M

A couple halfway decent teams match up here.  The Aggies have been mostly uncompetitive against good teams and beat bad teams mostly in a walk (except for Arkansas).  So now they face off against a a decent team in Okie State and the Mullets.  I haven't gotten to see Chuba Hubbard all season, so I hope to get an eyeball on this game.
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Re: Bowling For Burgers
« Reply #269 on: December 27, 2019, 07:17:56 AM »
Part Deux

8 pm, FS1
San Diego County Credit Union Holiday Bowl
USC v. Iowa

Hell yes shoot some Kirk Ferentz right into my veins.  USC's Air Raid against Iowa's Tampa 2.  The excitement makes me want to go to San Diego and get a bank account at the San Diego County Credit Union. BTW, does San Diego really need a bowl game to help with tourism?  It's not going to be any warmer in San Diego today than in Columbus.  If I went out there, I'd want my money back.  Anyways, go Hawkeyes.

10:15, ESPN
Cheez-It Bowl
Air Force v. Washington State

A tradition like no other, the Cheez-It Bowl actually features some fun teams.  Wazzu against leads the nation in passing, and Air Force is 3rd in rushing.  The Air Raid v. option look would be fun to watch - too bad I'll be long asleep by the middle of the first quarter.  Still, I think we have some Cheez-It snack packs around here somewhere for the kids lunches - I'll snag on of those.  
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Re: Bowling For Burgers
« Reply #270 on: December 27, 2019, 07:57:45 AM »
I went to bed and missed the boxing match last night.  Why would a person try and throw a punch at a guy wearing a lot of hardened plastic around his face and head?

Anger.  A UGA player grabbed another guy's face mask and threw him into the wall in the end zone, I thought that was at least somewhat creative.  You are more likely to break your hand throwing a punch than doing damage to a face, unless you know what you're doing.

Maybe I should start "hating" EMU now.  Meh.  I understand these kids are hypercompetitive, and very young (by my standards), which does not absolve them of stupidity, but does explain how it can happen.  Basketball seems to have almost ended this stuff with some severe penalties.  In football, if a player wants to injure another player, throwing a punch isn't it.  (A QB has much less of a chance of injuring a defensive player of course.)

I do wonder how often a defensive player gets mad and plays "dirty" with the intent to injure an opponent.
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Re: Bowling For Burgers
« Reply #271 on: December 27, 2019, 08:33:51 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on December 26, 2019, 10:12:17 PM
My "curve" is based on not getting clearly out coached except rarely, and not getting mysteriously upset by very inferior teams.  Richt obviously had problems beating Florida which was one issue, his teams lost twice to Tech at home, there was just these mysterious and predictable let down games, like losing to mediocre Tennessee badly and South Carolina with perhaps his most talented team.  These are not things that happen to Saban or Meyer coached teams.

One thing about Dooley was his teams very rarely were upset, and they occasionally pulled off a major upset.  They were tough teams, in the main, and usually not all that talented.  Since about 2002, UGA has had talent to burn and weird seasons, like this one.  They did have some decent wins but they almost looked bad winning them.


Yeah, but I think bringing up Saban and Meyer strengthens my point about how the harsh curve.  I also think Dooley may be getting somewhat of a pass from you.  Richt actually has a better winning percentage at UGA than Dooley.
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Re: Bowling For Burgers
« Reply #272 on: December 27, 2019, 08:43:17 AM »
Watch the tape of the EMU kid “hitting” the ref.  The ref took a dive.
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Re: Bowling For Burgers
« Reply #273 on: December 27, 2019, 09:43:34 AM »
Anyone else notice that Eastern Michigan’s coaching staff dressed like Auto Mechanics last night:


https://twitter.com/timmydhue/status/1210417724381421568

Edit: adding another tweet to capture yesterday: 


https://twitter.com/nypost/status/1210581713430175749
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Re: Bowling For Burgers
« Reply #274 on: December 27, 2019, 09:44:33 AM »
Quote from: Kris60 on December 27, 2019, 08:43:17 AM
Watch the tape of the EMU kid “hitting” the ref.  The ref took a dive.
Should have gotten a flopping penalty.
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Re: Bowling For Burgers
« Reply #275 on: December 27, 2019, 10:05:34 AM »
Quote from: Kris60 on December 27, 2019, 08:33:51 AM
Yeah, but I think bringing up Saban and Meyer strengthens my point about how the harsh curve.  I also think Dooley may be getting somewhat of a pass from you.  Richt actually has a better winning percentage at UGA than Dooley.

For me, it's about playing to your potential consistently.  Dooley never had teams putting 5-6-7 players into the draft each year, in 2018 three in the first round.  UGA talentwise compares pretty well with anyone.  So, why aren't they more consistent?  How can they lose at home to South Carolina?  IMHO, they get out coached. Circa 1975, that wasn't the case.

Kinda funny, Fran Tarkenton was a third round pick in the draft.
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Re: Bowling For Burgers
« Reply #276 on: December 27, 2019, 11:09:35 AM »
best 3rd rounder of all-time

well up to that point
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Re: Bowling For Burgers
« Reply #277 on: December 27, 2019, 11:48:15 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on December 27, 2019, 10:05:34 AM
For me, it's about playing to your potential consistently.  Dooley never had teams putting 5-6-7 players into the draft each year, in 2018 three in the first round.  UGA talentwise compares pretty well with anyone.  So, why aren't they more consistent?  How can they lose at home to South Carolina?  IMHO, they get out coached. Circa 1975, that wasn't the case.

Kinda funny, Fran Tarkenton was a third round pick in the draft.
When you start talking about playing to your potential that becomes REEEAAAALLLLYY subjective.  And there are different ways to measure that.  There were 6 times in Dooley’s career at UGA that he had a team ranked in the preseason that went on to finish unranked.  That only happened 3 times during Richt’s run.

I also think Richt may be suffering from a recency bias.  His shortcomings are still fresh in your mind.  Dooley’s aren’t.  Time has a way of smoothing out the rough edges.   And I don’t think it can be overstated that Dooley did the one thing Richt didn’t, win a NC.  A lot of flaws can be overlooked because of what happened in 1980.
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Re: Bowling For Burgers
« Reply #278 on: December 27, 2019, 11:57:00 AM »
That isn't my point.  I don't think Dooley was in fact some great coach.  I DO think he has his team motivated to PLAY nearly every game.  They rarely lost to an inferior team and they often could give fits to far more talented teams.  Dooley's reputation benefits as a result of this AND the fact he inherited a program that was really down.  Richt and Smart did not.  Their bar is higher, it's not sufficient to "continue" with some top ten finishes in the polls.  For me, it's more about how the team plays the game and whether they appear to come out flat too often and unmotivated.

Richt had very talented teams that would lose a game they never should have lost, or two.  Yes, upsets happen, but they should be rare.

(Dooley's 1969 team was said by him to be his most talented but they had a rash of key injuries and simply faded after being ranked.)

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Re: Bowling For Burgers
« Reply #279 on: December 27, 2019, 12:25:06 PM »
Anyway, pulling for Mack Brown's North Carolina orange slices and cookie platters today.  Dig in, Heels.  Or whatever they say.
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