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Re: Bowl Season 2023
« Reply #56 on: December 24, 2023, 10:14:52 AM »
I don't like the idea of players opting out or jumpin in the portal early either

but, as a coach, you should be supportive of the best interests of the young men in the program

it's a different world
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Re: Bowl Season 2023
« Reply #57 on: December 24, 2023, 10:27:51 AM »
It's a double-edged sword. You've got a bunch of 18-22 year old kids. Some of whom probably have grown up in less than ideal circumstances, and ALL of whom have had smoke blown up their ass their entire HS lives as coaches have fawned all over them telling them they're amazing and they have started to belleve that their their shit don't stink. 

Most of them might benefit from 4 years with a stern hard-ass coach who is going to DEMAND their best--while offering loving support of their efforts to produce it--to actually mold them into the young men they're capable of becoming. Sounds like that's the idea OAM is offering. It's a laudable idea, and frankly what many of our favorite coaches from this sport made their name doing.

Problem is that those coaches are going to increasingly have trouble in this sport. If you can declare for the transfer portal every time some coach is hard on you and hurts your feelings--even if you deserve it; even if it's what you NEED at that time to grow--those coaches are going to have trouble recruiting and keeping a roster intact. 

So it's lose-lose at this point. Be nice and you're a pushover; be tough and you've got no roster. 

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Re: Bowl Season 2023
« Reply #58 on: December 24, 2023, 10:44:32 AM »
I was astounded by this. 
If I was a HC and had players in the portal, they sure as shit aren't using the bowl as a resume builder.  I'd say good luck, but you're not putting on our uniform for this game, even if you do choose to stay. 
You have to earn playing with our colors on your back and since you're not t00% committed, you can watch from the sidelines or not at all.
Well, his coach jumped in the portal. And I assume most of the current staff won't be retained, so that part doesn't matter.

It's a weird split. Folks are mad the kids don't play. Folks are mad a kid wants to play. Seems like the point is bein' mad at anything, I suppose. 

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Re: Bowl Season 2023
« Reply #59 on: December 26, 2023, 02:45:13 PM »
Minnie down 7-6 early to Bowling Green.

Any idea why they went for 2, instead of the tie?
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Re: Bowl Season 2023
« Reply #60 on: December 26, 2023, 03:10:05 PM »
MN up 9-7 now.
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Re: Bowl Season 2023
« Reply #61 on: December 26, 2023, 03:34:10 PM »

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Re: Bowl Season 2023
« Reply #62 on: December 26, 2023, 03:58:23 PM »
Some thoughts:

No idea why PJ went for two, to say nothing of why he did so out of the swinging gates formation. 

$15 out the door for my wife and I to go. Cost more to drive down here than to get in. 

This game is even less interesting in person than what the score may suggest. 

The concessions here at Ford Field are surprisingly good.

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Re: Bowl Season 2023
« Reply #63 on: December 26, 2023, 04:34:34 PM »
The gf of the Minnesota QB is getting major camera time.  And I ain’t complaining.

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Re: Bowl Season 2023
« Reply #64 on: December 26, 2023, 06:02:19 PM »
Some thoughts:

The concessions here at Ford Field are surprisingly good.
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Re: Bowl Season 2023
« Reply #65 on: December 26, 2023, 11:11:09 PM »
Don't remember so many penalties during past bowl seasons. 

Jayhawks may have set a halftime record 
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Re: Bowl Season 2023
« Reply #66 on: December 26, 2023, 11:47:05 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on December 22, 2023, 07:49:01 AM
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Gophers had to pay their 3rd string QB $30K from NIL to stay and play in the bowl game. QB's 1 and 2 are in the portal.


Quote from: Benthere2 on December 22, 2023, 10:16:56 AM
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you do know that is fake news
first he was our 2nd string QB who is hanging up his cleats after the year, and he did not take 30K to stay.  he was out the door until AK left and was asked if he wanted one last game where he would be the main guy. and he said yes.  had to put planning his wedding off a few weeks but his Bride did not object.  I hear there was a low 4 digit offer to help pay for the wedding that was accepted


Went fishing for more info on this and there isn’t much save for message board sleuthing by a Nebraska/Big Ten beat writer:

"The rumor started on the Golden Gophers’ 247Sports message board when user ‘EdenPrairieGopher’ made a post:

“Just heard from an A+ source that Cole Kramer was given $30,000.00 to play in the bowl game from our NIL Fund. He was set to leave but thought this would be a great way to pay for his February wedding.”

While this anonymous poster has no credibility or way to have his claim verified, it was partially backed up by lead Minnesota football recruiting analyst and beat writer for 247Sports, Ryan Burns. Burns is not only one of the most reliable guys when it comes to Gopher related news, but he is a co-founder and co-operator of Dinkytown Athletes, which is Minnesota’s NIL collective.

Burns backs up the idea that Kramer was given money, but he doesn’t confirm the entire post. This was Burns’ response:

“They did allocate some funds to Kramer, that’s true. I’d say that my numbers are different from yours on what Cole got, but I could care less about that. That’s not important.”



https://twitter.com/KusleikaAndrew/status/1736020769409307069

Yes Fleck’s season ended poorly and a bowl win would really add a good note to 2023, but imagine a BENCH QB holding your program hostage to pay for their wedding?!?!

As for the wedding, here’s a recent article GUSHING over Cole Kramer:




1. His “first collegiate start” - without mention of NIL ultimatum

2.  His “deep maroon-and-gold roots” – an NIL chargeable loyalty

3. “Gophers coaches had been supportive of Kramer’s decision to retire. But given the circumstances, they soon contacted him about running it back for one more month.” – without mention of the NIL bargaining chip used to convince Kramer back.

4.  His “wedding plans” – without mention of the NIL funding his wedding.

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My comments: Minnesota 30 - Bowling Green 24

Cole Kramer: 8-16, 26 yards, 2 TDs, 1 Int., 31 yards rushing on 3 attempts. 


He threw for 1.625 yards per pass. But can you imagine, a guy achieved his lifelong dream, growing up a Gopher fan, starting QB for a game, and helping win it.


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Re: Bowl Season 2023
« Reply #67 on: December 27, 2023, 07:41:17 AM »
The gf of the Minnesota QB is getting major camera time.  And I ain’t complaining.
I saw this too. If the 3rd string water boy gets THAT, what does the starting QB get?

Good win for the kid and his team for sure.

And PJ Barnum is gonna kill Darious Taylor. Jeesh.
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Re: Bowl Season 2023
« Reply #68 on: December 27, 2023, 08:28:01 AM »
Seriously...

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Re: Bowl Season 2023
« Reply #69 on: December 27, 2023, 08:55:19 AM »
also saw a stat that stated the Goophers had won 7 straight bowl games
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