header pic

Perhaps the BEST B1G Forum anywhere, here at College Football Fan Site, CFB51!!!

The 'Old' CFN/Scout Crowd- Enjoy Civil discussion, game analytics, in depth player and coaching 'takes' and discussing topics surrounding the game. You can even have your own free board, all you have to do is ask!!!

Anyone is welcomed and encouraged to join our FREE site and to take part in our community- a community with you- the user, the fan, -and the person- will be protected from intrusive actions and with a clean place to interact.


« previous next »
Pages: 1 2 3 [4] 5 6 ... 12   Go Down
Author

Topic: Black Friday Football Scheduling

 (Read 21601 times)

Hawkinole

  • Starter
  • *****
  • Posts: 2389
  • Liked:
Re: Black Friday Football Scheduling
« Reply #42 on: February 02, 2018, 11:50:02 PM »
Quote from: MarqHusker on February 02, 2018, 10:31:03 PM
The Black Friday game for Nebraska actually predates 'N v CU'.   Nebraska and OU did the Black Friday thing from 1990-95, and once the XII schedule interfered with annual N v OU tilts,  CU became the Black Friday opponent.  

Nebraska played OU 5 times on Thanksgiving Day (including the '71 GOTC), the balance of their regular season games were in Mid-late November between '50s-'89, save the biggest upset in the series, the '59 game when Nebraska broke OU's zillion game conference winning streak on Halloween.

It'd be nice to see Nebraska retain the game slot, with Iowa (preferred), but all of these ships have sailed at this point.
I thought I remembered Nebraska-OU on T-Giving Day. With all this talk of Nebraska's traditional Black Friday  game, I thought my decades old memory was wrong.
I don't care much which game Iowa plays the last week of the season as between Minnesota, Wisconsin, or Nebraska. The conference would be wise to stick with one and go with it. Little Pig's suggestion of a Black Friday double header in the Big Ten as a lead-up to Mich/Ohio St (which sorry people but not all of us get that hyped about it). The forces of evil vs. evil is not a good draw for outsiders. It could be any of the other Big Ten rivalries like Pudue-Indiana or Northwestern-Illinois, or Penn State-Maryland (can't believe I said that) for a Black Friday lineup.
Is it possible Iowa-Wisconsin was selected as the season finale for Wisconsin, with Iowa being the team most prone to scoring unexpected upsets? I would like to have known what they were thinking when they came up with this schedule for 2020 going forward.
« Last Edit: February 02, 2018, 11:54:45 PM by Hawkinole »
Logged

Hawkinole

  • Starter
  • *****
  • Posts: 2389
  • Liked:
Re: Black Friday Football Scheduling
« Reply #43 on: February 02, 2018, 11:53:23 PM »
Quote from: LittlePig on February 02, 2018, 11:36:19 PM
I would like to see Iowa keep the Iowa State game every year.  Instead I would like to see Iowa give up 1 home game once every 6 years, and then play a decent P5 OOC team once every 3 years.
2021 would be the idea year for Iowa to schedule the extra P5 OOC.
I think it would add interest to the series if it were played less frequently, and would like to see Notre Dame brought in to replace Iowa State in years Iowa State isn't on the schedule. Notre Dame will not always be available. Air Force would make for a nice series. I could see traveling to Colorado Springs for a game.
Logged

847badgerfan

  • Administrator
  • Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Posts: 31208
  • Liked:
Re: Black Friday Football Scheduling
« Reply #44 on: February 03, 2018, 11:17:46 AM »
Given the series history with Iowa and Wisconsin (as close as it gets) and the way the games are played (bloodbaths), having it on the final weekend makes sense. Just not on a Friday. Leave that for someone else please.

I'm sick of Wisconsin getting screwed, like being stuck in an East division and losing the Iowa game as a result. That one still pisses me off, but I do take some solace in the fact that Delany's dream of having an M/OSU CCG never happened. To me, and most Badger fans, UW playing on Black Friday is a screw job.

Maybe Michigan and Ohio State can take one for the team and play he late game on Black Friday. 

Northwestern and Nebraska can play the early game that day, for who gets to be called "NU" for the following year.

Wisconsin plays Iowa and Michigan State plays Penn State.
Logged
U RAH RAH! WIS CON SIN!

FearlessF

  • Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Posts: 45630
  • Liked:
Re: Black Friday Football Scheduling
« Reply #45 on: February 03, 2018, 03:56:08 PM »
if Barry and the Badgers don't like Black Friday, they can play the gooophers or Northwestern on Saturday

no problem, everyone's happy
Logged
"Courage; Generosity; Fairness; Honor; In these are the true awards of manly sport."

847badgerfan

  • Administrator
  • Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Posts: 31208
  • Liked:
Re: Black Friday Football Scheduling
« Reply #46 on: February 03, 2018, 06:43:09 PM »
Quote from: FearlessF on February 03, 2018, 03:56:08 PM
if Barry and the Badgers don't like Black Friday, they can play the gooophers or Northwestern on Saturday

no problem, everyone's happy
Meh. I'd rather see MSU take the spot for 6 years, and then PSU.

Just not on Friday. Put Minnie back to October, as it should be.
Logged
U RAH RAH! WIS CON SIN!

Brutus Buckeye

  • Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Posts: 12098
  • Liked:
Re: Black Friday Football Scheduling
« Reply #47 on: February 03, 2018, 07:27:54 PM »

So now we are breaking up the Land of Lincoln rivalry? 


Logged

FearlessF

  • Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Posts: 45630
  • Liked:
Re: Black Friday Football Scheduling
« Reply #48 on: February 03, 2018, 07:29:51 PM »
well, the reason and advantage to playing on that Friday is for national exposure. (recruiting)

I'd rather no other programs but Nebraska and their opponent play on that day.

I'm fine with all other Big teams playing on Saturday
Logged
"Courage; Generosity; Fairness; Honor; In these are the true awards of manly sport."

847badgerfan

  • Administrator
  • Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Posts: 31208
  • Liked:
Re: Black Friday Football Scheduling
« Reply #49 on: February 03, 2018, 08:12:06 PM »
Quote from: Brutus Buckeye on February 03, 2018, 07:27:54 PM
So now we are breaking up the Land of Lincoln rivalry?



They don't really care all that much, to be honest. I think they would like a nice, sunny October day in Wiggles Field to bask in the glow and drink Bud Light.
Logged
U RAH RAH! WIS CON SIN!

Hawkinole

  • Starter
  • *****
  • Posts: 2389
  • Liked:
Re: Black Friday Football Scheduling
« Reply #50 on: February 05, 2018, 03:37:34 PM »
I saw this article today in The Gazette. It is undated, but I think it is very recent. Says Nebraska AD Bill Moos called Iowa's AD to ask if they could be Iowa's permanent Black Friday rival.
I think it is very strange how this was a Nebraska event, and suddenly Iowa seems to have stolen it out from under Nebraska.
What is interesting about the article is Iowa's AD said, "For a while, Nebraska said it didn’t want to play on Friday anymore. We still wanted to, both Kirk (Ferentz) and I.”
Reading between the lines it appears Nebraska was the impetus for the Iowa-Wisconsin game being scheduled to close out the season because Iowa still wanted to play on Black Friday and Nebraska didn't want that day anymore. So Iowa was given a new dance partner. And, I am guessing, although nothing says so, that the day of the event was to be worked out later with television.
http://www.thegazette.com/subject/sports/for-iowa-its-black-friday-more-than-the-opponent-20180201
« Last Edit: February 05, 2018, 03:47:35 PM by Hawkinole »
Logged

medinabuckeye1

  • Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Default Avatar
  • Posts: 10655
  • Liked:
Re: Black Friday Football Scheduling
« Reply #51 on: February 05, 2018, 04:02:14 PM »
Quote from: FearlessF on February 03, 2018, 07:29:51 PM
well, the reason and advantage to playing on that Friday is for national exposure. (recruiting)

I'd rather no other programs but Nebraska and their opponent play on that day.

I'm fine with all other Big teams playing on Saturday
The other advantage is an extra day of practice if you make the CCG.  
Logged

medinabuckeye1

  • Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Default Avatar
  • Posts: 10655
  • Liked:
Re: Black Friday Football Scheduling
« Reply #52 on: February 05, 2018, 04:12:21 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on February 02, 2018, 04:12:43 PM
No like.

How about Michigan vs. Notre Dame on Friday and Ohio State vs. West Virginia on Saturday?

See?

Nah.

Just let it be Iowa/UNL on Friday and leave the rest alone.

Just need Minnie to get consistently good and all will be fine.
Well in your examples at least Michigan and Notre Dame have a lot of history and an actual rivalry.  
Personally, I wouldn't have anything against my team playing a game on Friday the last week of the season, it would be an extra day's practice for years in which we make the CCG.  
  • Iowa and Iowa State have played 60 times including every year since 1977.  
  • Nebraska and Oklahoma have played 86 times.  
  • Minnesota and Wisconsin have played 125 times.  
  • Notre Dame and Michigan have played 39 times.  
  • Ohio State and West Virginia have played twice.  
One of those things is not like the others.  
Logged

Entropy

  • Starter
  • *****
  • Posts: 1440
  • Liked:
Re: Black Friday Football Scheduling
« Reply #53 on: February 05, 2018, 04:22:35 PM »
Quote from: Hawkinole on February 05, 2018, 03:37:34 PM
I saw this article today in The Gazette. It is undated, but I think it is very recent. Says Nebraska AD Bill Moos called Iowa's AD to ask if they could be Iowa's permanent Black Friday rival.
I think it is very strange how this was a Nebraska event, and suddenly Iowa seems to have stolen it out from under Nebraska.
What is interesting about the article is Iowa's AD said, "For a while, Nebraska said it didn’t want to play on Friday anymore. We still wanted to, both Kirk (Ferentz) and I.”
Reading between the lines it appears Nebraska was the impetus for the Iowa-Wisconsin game being scheduled to close out the season because Iowa still wanted to play on Black Friday and Nebraska didn't want that day anymore. So Iowa was given a new dance partner. And, I am guessing, although nothing says so, that the day of the event was to be worked out later with television.
http://www.thegazette.com/subject/sports/for-iowa-its-black-friday-more-than-the-opponent-20180201
some of us have the opinion that UNL's ex-AD's "final straw" was his public opinion that the game on black Friday wasn't necessary.  Husker fans were not impressed and I think it proved how out of touch he was with the program and fans.   
Logged

847badgerfan

  • Administrator
  • Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Posts: 31208
  • Liked:
Re: Black Friday Football Scheduling
« Reply #54 on: February 05, 2018, 06:10:07 PM »
Quote from: medinabuckeye1 on February 05, 2018, 04:12:21 PM

One of those things is not like the others.  
My post was meant to be a bitter pill for you, like all the possibilities you posted for other schools.

Maybe make it Cincinnati instead. You get the point.
Logged
U RAH RAH! WIS CON SIN!

medinabuckeye1

  • Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Default Avatar
  • Posts: 10655
  • Liked:
Re: Black Friday Football Scheduling
« Reply #55 on: February 05, 2018, 06:16:52 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on February 05, 2018, 06:10:07 PM
My post was meant to be a bitter pill for you, like all the possibilities you posted for other schools.

Maybe make it Cincinnati instead. You get the point.
I get the point, I just disagree.  Ohio State doesn't have any "other" rivals that are even close to Michigan.  The three games I suggested are:
  • Wisconsin/Minnesota
  • Iowa/Iowa State
  • Nebraska/Oklahoma
All of those are legitimate rivalries (though I noticed in this thread that Iowa fans take issue with that).  Even acknowledging the Hawkeye objections, Ohio State (Cincy/WVU) isn't remotely close to any of those.  

Back to you:
Is your objection to:
  • Wisconsin playing on Friday, or
  • Anybody playing on Friday, or
  • The Wisconsin/Minnesota match-up as a final weekend game, or
  • One of the other match-ups I proposed for the final weekend, or
  • Some combination or something else?
Logged
Pages: 1 2 3 [4] 5 6 ... 12   Go Up
« previous next »
 
Support the Site!
Purchase of every item listed here DIRECTLY supports the site.
Tennessee Country Medallion

Custom Medallion