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Yeah, the first round would be like last year, but then it would fix the second round.

Yes, I would reseed for sure after the first round.

I actually think I would reseed after the quarterfinals too.

Now once you add moisture, that changes.

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Yeah, the first round would be like last year, but then it would fix the second round.

Yes, I would reseed for sure after the first round.

I actually think I would reseed after the quarterfinals too.

I like this from a competition perspective but I also agree with this:

Overcomplication might be off-putting to the casual fan.

I see where you are coming from here:

I don't think that's overcomplicating.  Also, I think there are 2 types of fans (ignoring super causals, who don't really care).  #1 is people who follow closely, and get it.  #2 are people who just watch ball, and don't care about how we got here.

If you can't follow reseeding, you also don't know why Arizona State got a bye last year, and don't care

But I think there is an advantage for the broadcasters and ticket sellers in KNOWING what is next.  Ie, if you do it seeded (using last year again) then the first round is:

• Tennessee at Ohio State, winner vs TX/Clemson in the Sugar Bowl (because Texas is the higher seed.  The Rose and Peach are already taken and the Sugar is preferable to Texas over the Fiesta). 
• Indiana at Notre Dame, winner vs PSU/SMU in the Fiesta Bowl (Fiesta is the only bowl left). 
• SMU at Penn State, winner vs IU/ND in the Fiesta Bowl. 
• Clemson at Texas, winner vs TN/tOSU in the Sugar Bowl. 

Everyone would know in advance that the four quarter-finals were:

• Oregon vs ASU in the Rose Bowl
• Georgia vs Boise State in the Peach Bowl
• TN/tOSU vs TX/Clemson in the Sugar Bowl
• IU/ND vs PSU/SMU in the Fiesta Bowl

I think there is an advantage for broadcasters, ticket sellers, and just random fans planning game-watch parties or bowl trips to knowing what comes next.  Ie, I'd know going into the TN/tOSU game that if my Buckeyes win they get TX/Clemson in the Sugar Bowl.  Indiana/ND/PSU/SMU fans would also know in advance that if they win they go to the Fiesta Bowl to play the other winner. 

I also think there is a big difference between a bracket being 'broken' because say Indiana unexpectedly beat Notre Dame and a bracket being broken by design.  In the NCAA Tournament we have broken brackets all the time and it isn't seen as a grave injustice, it is just the way things work out.  If you are a #4 seed and your #1 seed gets knocked off in the first two rounds then we view it as lucky that you got to play the 8/9 in the S16 instead of the #1 and it is just the way it is.  We don't view it as 'unfair' that #1 has to play #4 while the #2 seed gets #11.  That is just lucky for #2 that the #11 managed to knock off #6 and #3 (or possibly #14). 

I'm fine with an underdog having the ability to essentially "steal" the higher seed's path by upsetting them.  So if #16 Clemson can walk into DKR in Austin Texas in front of 100k+ screaming Longhorn fans and knock off the Longhorns, I have no problem letting Clemson then take over #3 Texas' path. 

I also think there is a big difference between a bracket being 'broken' because say Indiana unexpectedly beat Notre Dame and a bracket being broken by design.  In the NCAA Tournament we have broken brackets all the time and it isn't seen as a grave injustice, it is just the way things work out.  If you are a #4 seed and your #1 seed gets knocked off in the first two rounds then we view it as lucky that you got to play the 8/9 in the S16 instead of the #1 and it is just the way it is.  We don't view it as 'unfair' that #1 has to play #4 while the #2 seed gets #11.  That is just lucky for #2 that the #11 managed to knock off #6 and #3 (or possibly #14). 

I'm fine with an underdog having the ability to essentially "steal" the higher seed's path by upsetting them.  So if #16 Clemson can walk into DKR in Austin Texas in front of 100k+ screaming Longhorn fans and knock off the Longhorns, I have no problem letting Clemson then take over #3 Texas' path. 

I also think that one of the problems we had last year is that the bracket was broken, and it was broken by design. 

When you had the #9 and #12 seeds being gifted the #3 & #4 seeds and a first round bye, that threw off all the other matchups. 

Hence why they changed the format this year such that the top 4 seeds, regardless of conference championship status, would get the top four seeds and the first round bye. 

Once you do that, I don't think there's any reason to reseed after the first round. Sure, a 4 seed might face the 12 instead of the 5. But that's a bracket that's broken naturally, not broken by design. 

There's not going to be reseeding. People want to have office bracket pools, like March madness. You can't do that with a bunch of moving parts. Everyone's bracket would be in shambles by round two. Dream on.

I also think that one of the problems we had last year is that the bracket was broken, and it was broken by design.

This is my biggest objection.  Brackets broken by upsets are fine, upsets happen.  Brackets broken by design are a problem.  

When you had the #9 and #12 seeds being gifted the #3 & #4 seeds and a first round bye, that threw off all the other matchups.

I'm fine with "gifting" the #9 and #12 seeds a bye because it preserves the importance of the CG.  Say that tOSU and IU get to the B1GCG this year at 12-0 each and #1/2.  Under last year's format the winner gets a bye but the loser may well get an easier overall path even with the extra game.  That is "broken by design".  Under this year's format both teams probably get a bye either way and the difficulty of their paths is mostly up to random chance in other games.  Under @ELA 's proposal the winner gets a bye AND at least a theoretically easier path which is how it should be.  Then if the loser ends up with an easier path due to upsets in other games well that is just how the ball bounces, upsets happen and "naturally broken" brackets sometimes result.  

Once you do that, I don't think there's any reason to reseed after the first round. Sure, a 4 seed might face the 12 instead of the 5. But that's a bracket that's broken naturally, not broken by design.

Yeah, there's no reason to reseed under the current format.

But if you hold seeding, but give the byes to the top 4 conference champs, then I'm also fine with not reseeding.  The byes are separate from the seeding

This is where I'm at.  As long as the seeding makes sense for chalk, any upsets just create naturally broken brackets and we are all accustomed to that and we all accept that in the NCAA Tournament every single year.  

So my proposal (so long as we stick with 12) would be the same as what @ELA started out with only no reseeding.  So based on the SOR/SP+ bracket that he presented for this year (assumes that #1 IU beats #2 tOSU in the B1GCG and #3 aTm beats #4 Bama in the SECCG) I'd go with:

• #12 USF at #2 Ohio State, winner vs B12 Champion #9 BYU in the Sugar Bowl
• #10 TxTech at #4 Bama, winner vs Ole Miss/UGA in the Orange Bowl
• #8 Ole Miss at #5 Georgia, winner vs Bama/TxTech in the Orange Bowl 
• #7 Oklahoma at #6 Oregon, winner vs SEC Champion #3 aTm in the Cotton Bowl

Thus, the quarter-finals are:

• #1 Indiana vs #11 Miami in the Rose Bowl
• tOSU/USF vs #9 BYU in the Sugar Bowl (because the Rose is already taken and the next best location for tOSU is probably NOLA rather than Miami or Dallas)
• OU/Ore vs #3 aTm in the Cotton Bowl (because the Cotton Bowl is preferable to aTm)
• Bama/TxTech vs Ole Miss/UGA in the Orange Bowl (only bowl left)

Then the semi-finals are:

• IU/Miami vs Bama/TxTech/Ole Miss/UGA in the Peach Bowl (because the Peach is closer to IU than the Fiesta although this might be a disadvantage depending on who they play)
• tOSU/USF/BYU vs OU/Ore/aTm in the Fiesta Bowl (only bowl left)

Then the CG is:
IU/Miami/Bama/TxTech/Ole Miss/UGA vs tOSU/USF/BYU/OU/Ore/aTm in the CG in Miami.

By chalk you get:
First Round:

• #12 USF at #2 Ohio State
• #10 TxTech at #4 Bama
• #8 Ole Miss at #5 Georgia
• #7 Oklahoma at #6 Oregon

Quarter Finals:

• #1 IU vs #11 Miami
• #2 Ohio State vs #9 BYU
• #3 aTm vs #6 Oregon
• #4 Bama vs #5 Georgia

Semi-Finals:

• #1 IU vs #4 Bama
• #2 tOSU vs #3 aTm

Eh, nobody does NFL pools either.

College basketball leans into it, because its a way to get people into 48 games over 4 days.  After that, nobody cares, who doesn't otherwise care about college basketball.  Even the secretary who is in first place after the weekend, picking based on mascots, doesn't want to follow 4 prime time games.  It's fun for them when you have 8 games at a time happening during the work day.

Nobody does NFL playoff office pools.  Hell, we used to have confidence pools for the bowls, and those went away.  So this has actually decreased casual interest.  I'm fine with no reseeding, but we 100% need my hybrid 2024/2025 model, to have anyone care about the regular season/CCGs