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Topic: Big Ten Power Rankings After Week 7

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LittlePig

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Big Ten Power Rankings After Week 7
« on: October 13, 2024, 06:52:19 AM »
Well, the Big question emerging seems to be how much should a 2+ time zone difference be taken into account when doing Power Rankings.  A question I am struggling with. 

1.  Oregon -  I can't make up my mind if a 1-point victory at home against OSU is enough to make Ore #1.  I really consider Ore & OSU tied at this point and they really should play again on a neutral field.  For now,  I am putting Oregon #1 because they actually won,

2.  Ohio St -  I am still debating with myself if OSU's 1-pt loss on the road to Ore should be enough to keep OSU #1.  I just can't decide.

3.  Penn St -  There is growing evidence that traveling 2+ time zones for a game is really, really hard.  I give PSU credit for a gutsy comeback and OT win on the road @USC.

4.  Indiana -  Indiana's blowout win  @UCLA earlier in year is starting to look more impressive in hindsight given how every team seems to be struggling on the road.

5.  Iowa -  Iowa is good enough to dominate Minn and Wash.  Bad enough to be dominated by OSU.  Kaleb Johnson is looking like an All-American RB as long as he doesn't play against OSU.

6.  Illinois - Almost blew it in OT against awful Purdue team,  but some weeks you just gotta survive

7.  Nebraska -  only loss so far was in OT at home against ILL

8.  Wisconsin - Wisc makes a big jump in my rankings after big blowout win @Rutgers. 

9.  Rutgers -  may not be as good as I first thought.

10. Washington -  Wash seems to be 2 totally different teams when playing at home and on the road.  Hard team to rank.

11.  Michigan -  still debating how much the loss @Wash should count against Mich

12.  Minnesota -  dominated by Iowa, close loss to Mich,  then back to back wins against USC and @UCLA.  Minn seems to be getting better.

13.  USC -  like Wash,  USC is a hard team to rank because they play so much better at home.  But USC seems to have trouble playing complete games.

14.  NW -  dominated MD on the road.

15.  Mich St -  MSU barely beat MD and then lost to Ore and OSU. 

16.  MD - I have this theory that Mike Locksley is the worst head coach in Big Ten and so far this season, he seems to be living down to that expectation.

17.  UCLA - showed life at home almost pulling off upset against Minn.

18.  Purdue -  After looking awful all year,  Purdue almost pulls off big comeback win,  just coming up short in OT against ILL.
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Re: Big Ten Power Rankings After Week 7
« Reply #1 on: October 13, 2024, 07:03:50 AM »

  • Oregon: Won a great game
  • OSU: Defense just wasn't it, also lost their left tackle
  • PSU: Escaped USC, has a star at tight end
  • Indiana: Won the bye
  • Iowa: Looked like a complete team
  • USC: This is a very difficult team to rank - they are three hairs from being undefeated
  • Illinois: Far from inspiring
  • Washington: Welcome to Kinnick
  • Michigan: BYE
  • Nebraska: BYE
  • Minnesota: Also uninspiring
  • Wisconsin: Coming to life?
  • Rutgers: Not their finest effort
  • Northwestern: Moving them out of the basement
  • MSU: BYE
  • Maryland: Yuck
  • UCLA: No
  • Purdue: Hey, competitive!

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Re: Big Ten Power Rankings After Week 7
« Reply #2 on: October 13, 2024, 11:41:14 AM »
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Re: Big Ten Power Rankings After Week 7
« Reply #3 on: October 13, 2024, 06:13:54 PM »
1) Ohio State: I know this is controversial, but I think we’re starting to see the problem we all expected with an athletic conference that spans four time zones.
2) Penn State: same. Very high quality road win against a good team.
3) Oregon: good argument that I have Oregon two spots too low. Going to Michigan will be hard. Going to Wisconsin in mid-November may also be tough
4) Michigan, but it’s not obvious. The traveling in this conference is silly.
5) Iowa: someone has to go here, and the Hawkeyes took care of business against the Huskies.
6) USC: probably.
7) Washington: Iowa is tough at Kinnick, but that wasn’t a great showing.
8) Nebraska: won the bye.
9) Illinois: not a good showing against Purdue, but Illinois won.
10) Minnesota: won 1500 miles from home. That’s not nothing.
11) Wisconsin: trending in the right direction.
12) but but but what about Indiana!?! PROVE IT. I'm guessing Indiana finsishes 2-4. Kudos if it does, and finishes 8-4, but that's a different 8-4 than the team I put ahead of it. Same as I said last week before the bye, but moved up because Rutgers moved down.
13) Rutgers: welcome back to reality.
Bringing up the rear:
14) Sparty: no game, no change.
15) Northwestern: solid looking win.
16) UCLA: made it tough on a decent Goopher squad.
17) Maryland: not a good showing against Northwestern.
18) Purdon't. Still losing, even if it was close.
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Re: Big Ten Power Rankings After Week 7
« Reply #4 on: October 13, 2024, 06:31:55 PM »
1. Oregon
2. Penn State
3. Ohio State
4. Iowa
5. Indiana 
6. Washington 
7. Illinois
8. Michigan 
9. USC
10. Nebraska
11. Wisconsin 
12. Minnesota
13. Rutgers
14. Michigan State
15. Northwestern
16. Purdue
17. UCLA
18. Maryland
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Re: Big Ten Power Rankings After Week 7
« Reply #5 on: October 13, 2024, 06:35:58 PM »
1. Oregon 
2  Ohio State 
3. Penn State 
4. Iowa
5. Indiana
6. Michigan 
7. USC
8. Illinois 
9. Nebraska 
10. Minnesota 
11. Wisconsin 
12. Washington 
13. Michigan State 
14. Northwestern 
15. Rutgers 
16. UCLA 
17. Maryland 
18. Purdue 
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Re: Big Ten Power Rankings After Week 7
« Reply #6 on: October 13, 2024, 08:59:33 PM »
it'll all shake out in the end

to an extent 
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Re: Big Ten Power Rankings After Week 7
« Reply #7 on: October 13, 2024, 09:03:56 PM »
Tough for things to really shake out in a bloated 18 team conference where half the teams don't play one another, but some results will occur, one way or another, I suppose.
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Re: Big Ten Power Rankings After Week 7
« Reply #8 on: October 13, 2024, 09:07:37 PM »
yup, like last season or the season before, we will be left wondering if the # 3 team was better than the #4 team or if the #5 team was better than the #7 team
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Re: Big Ten Power Rankings After Week 7
« Reply #9 on: October 14, 2024, 08:18:05 AM »
1. Ohio State
2. Penn State
3. Oregon
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Re: Big Ten Power Rankings After Week 7
« Reply #10 on: October 14, 2024, 11:47:05 AM »
Some thoughts on this week's upcoming games.

There seems to be consensus with Oregon near the top and Purdue near the bottom of the power rankings.  This sets up the classic trap game for Oregon, which has to travel cross-country to Purdue on Friday night.  But I am afraid Purdue is so bad this year,  they probably used their best effort last week in the OT loss to Illinois.  Oregon probably wins in a blow out.

There does not seem to be much faith in Indiana on this board,  which I admit is my default instinct as well,  but so far the Hoosiers are not just winning,  but dominating their opponents.  That's what makes it's next game against Nebraska so interesting.  Is Indiana for real?  This could be Indiana's toughest test until they play at OSU on Nov 23.

Mich @ILL is another interesting game which will put the transitive property to the test.  ILL beat Neb,  Neb beat Rut,  Rut beat Wash,  Wash beat Mich.  So ILL should beat Mich, right?

A lot of folks have Iowa ranked higher and MSU lower in the power rankings,  but still I don't know if Iowa is that much better than MSU.  Probably will be a close game in East Lansing on Sat that could go either way.
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Re: Big Ten Power Rankings After Week 7
« Reply #11 on: October 14, 2024, 12:01:48 PM »
Purdue is going to get steamrolled by Oregon. Don't overthink this. 

Yeah, they had some fight in them against Illinois. But that's because they aren't completely out-talented by Illinois. Here are the 247 composite whole roster rankings of both teams:




Now, I don't put a TON of stock into this... I doubt Purdue is actually out-talenting Illinois by that much. There is always a lot of noise in these rankings. 

But... Here's Oregon:



Oregon's second stringers could beat us handily. Their first team will decimate us. It's going to be ugly. 
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Re: Big Ten Power Rankings After Week 7
« Reply #12 on: October 16, 2024, 10:19:07 AM »
Last week in parentheses...

  • PENN STATE (2) - what travel issues?
  • OHIO STATE (1) - no shame in a 2 point road loss
  • OREGON (3) - same reason I kept Michigan and Minnesota behind USC
  • INDIANA (4) - bye week
  • IOWA (11) - probably the most Iowa win ever
  • WISCONSIN (12) - seems like they were playing both the wrong QB and the wrong RB
  • ILLINOIS (5) - have to end your opponent when you have a chance
  • NEBRASKA (6) - bye week
  • WASHINGTON (7) - second time they outplayed their opponent in a loss
  • USC (8) - for a half it seemed like they could play defense
  • MICHIGAN (9) - bye week
  • RUTGERS (10) - big yikes
  • MINNESOTA (13) - UCLA appears to be the one cross country trip that is fine
  • MICHIGAN STATE (14) - bye week
  • NORTHWESTERN (16) - offense starting to find its footing
  • MARYLAND (15) - no way Locksley survives this season
  • UCLA (17) - if Foster wasn't a Bruin legend, he might be one and done
  • PURDUE (18) - team may have some fight left in them
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Re: Big Ten Power Rankings After Week 7
« Reply #13 on: October 16, 2024, 10:23:23 AM »
Quote from: ELA on October 16, 2024, 10:19:07 AM
Last week in parentheses... NORTHWESTERN (16) - offense starting to find its footing
Not really. Take a look at the Q4 scoring.
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