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Re: Best TE you ever saw
« Reply #14 on: July 18, 2023, 12:17:24 AM »
Iowa is Tight End U, and so we have seen a lot of good ones. 

I would say it started out with Jonathan Hayes, Mike Flagg, and Marv Cook. This was 4th and 23 from the Ohio State 26-yard line, on Iowa's last offensive play of the day, where they eked out a win in Columbus in 1987. Marv Cook helped Earle Bruce return to his roots in Iowa to find a new head coaching job at UNI. Cook had a great pro career.
(26) Marv Cook game winning TD catch vs. OSU 1987 - YouTube

Then I thought Dallas Clark was the greatest tight end. He played 8-man football in high school and walked on. He had a great pro career, too.
(26) 2002 Iowa vs Purdue - 95 Yard Dallas Clark TD - YouTube Then, for the winner: 
(26) Brad Banks to Dallas Clark for the Win. 2002 Iowa Hawkeyes - YouTube
Then there was George Kittle.
(26) Iowa TE George Kittle Career Highlights ᴴᴰ - YouTube
Noah Fant:
(26) 2019 NFL Draft: Iowa TE Noah Fant Season Highlights | B1G Football - YouTube
But Noah Fant who was a 1st round draft pick and the greatest TE recruit in Iowa hx, had to compete against another Iowa tight end, T.J. Hockensen who was probably the greatest TE in Iowa hx, and an earlier 1st round draft pick:
(26) 2019 NFL Draft: Iowa TE T.J. Hockenson Season Highlights | B1G Football - YouTube



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Re: Best TE you ever saw
« Reply #15 on: July 18, 2023, 07:50:59 AM »
Gimme someone from Iowa.

Keith Jackson was a beast, as was Winslow.
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Re: Best TE you ever saw
« Reply #16 on: July 18, 2023, 10:46:03 AM »
To me, the ideal would be a TE that actually fills both roles. I can't necessarily think of someone at the collegiate level that sticks out to me in this sense, but at the pro level you're looking at a George Kittle type. Truly loves and excels at flatting a defender in the blocking scheme, but also a massive weapon in the passing game. Edit: And the advantage of these guys is that they stay on the field and aren't a "tell" for the offense whether you're running or passing.

Well George Kittle did play college football before the NFL but I will concede that the George Kittle that played at Iowa was not quite playing at the same level he has achieved in the NFL.  Partly due to Kittle being hurt often at Iowa and not being at full speed and strength.

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Re: Best TE you ever saw
« Reply #17 on: July 18, 2023, 10:52:13 AM »
I don't know about the single best TE in college but as far as which team had the best pair of TE's in history,  Iowa had a pair of TEs in 2018 that both were drafted in the first round of the 2019 NFL draft.  

Iowa TE T.J.  Hockeson won the Mackey award in 2018 and was drafted 7th overall in the 2019 NFL draft.  Iowa TE Noah Fant was drafted 20th overall in the same draft.

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« Reply #18 on: July 18, 2023, 11:01:50 AM »
^^^

That is a first, perhaps? 
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Re: Best TE you ever saw
« Reply #19 on: July 18, 2023, 11:15:02 AM »
Man I was at the OSU-Miami game and that guy just wrecked them. Luckily he was the only guy who did. Also good lord he wrecked his life.
Yes he did,Butch Davis though had no business putting him on the Kick off team his 1st play from scrimmage in the NFL pre-season. Ripping up his knee,evidently doing wheelies on crotch rockets the following summer were part of his physical therapy and he ripped it up again - the Browns luck.A year or two later Braylon Edwards ripped his knee as did LeCharles Bentley on his 1st play there after signing as a FA - all conspiring against me

Any way Kyle Pitts was a load and checked all of the boxes as were Winslow Jr/Sr
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Re: Best TE you ever saw
« Reply #20 on: July 18, 2023, 11:33:16 AM »
The best college TE I probably ever saw was Winslow Jr.  As far as TE who didn’t get AA attention that’s a tough one.  I’d have to think about that one.

first one i thought of as well. that's the first one i thought "he's not just an extra weapon/afterthought, you could build an offensive gameplan around him". also, did not know/remember him ruining his life. sucks.

just before my time, but nomination from bama would be ozzie newsome. and, depending on how loose your definition of "end", don hutson. but he's from waaaaaay back, technically and 'end', but more a wr without the name. his records are impressive, though.

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Re: Best TE you ever saw
« Reply #21 on: July 18, 2023, 11:46:07 AM »
I'd probably say Kyle Pitts as much as that pains me.  Bowers now, is in that same mold.

I'm pretty fond of this guy:


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« Reply #22 on: July 18, 2023, 11:48:56 AM »
I'll take the Senior Winslow - wasn't convicted of rape like JR

A native of East St. Louis, Illinois, Kellen Winslow redefined the tight end position at the collegiate and professional levels during his playing career. At MU, he caught 71 passes for 1,089 yards and 10 touchdowns from 1976-78, earning all-Big Eight Conference honors in 1977 and `78, and consensus all-America status as a senior. He went on to play in the East-West Shrine and Senior Bowls. His number 83 at Missouri is retired. He was inducted into the College Football Hall of Fame in 2002 and the Missouri Sports Hall of Fame in 1994. 

He was a first-round pick by the San Diego Chargers in the NFL Draft and caught more passes than any tight end in league history from 1979-88. He made five Pro Bowls, was named first-team all-Pro three times, led the NFL in receptions in 1980 and ’81 and was a member of the NFL’s all-decade team of the 1980s, the NFL’s 75th anniversary all-time team, the NFL’s 100th anniversary all-time team and the San Diego Chargers Hall of Fame. He was inducted into the Pro Football Hall of Fame in 1995. In a 1981–82 playoff game against the Miami Dolphins that became known as The Epic in Miami, Winslow caught a playoff-record 13 passes for 166 yards and a touchdown, while also blocking a field goal with seconds remaining to send the game to overtime in one of the greatest single player efforts in NFL history.

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« Reply #23 on: July 18, 2023, 12:49:40 PM »
When I think of great TE Winslow Sr is still the first name that pops in my head because he was the first great TE I was aware of as a kid (but Newsome was great too). But I was too young to remember his college days.  I honestly think Kelce might be the best TE ever, but my measuring stick is still Winslow.

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« Reply #24 on: July 18, 2023, 01:24:48 PM »
Kelce is great in the NFL
but, more of a WR than TE

College stats at Cincy weren't awesome, but solid

 Winslow Senior went up against some great defenses at the Sooners and Huskers, but he did have James Wilder at RB to take some pressure off
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« Reply #25 on: July 18, 2023, 01:41:59 PM »
  I honestly think Kelce might be the best TE ever, but my measuring stick is still Winslow.
College only?
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« Reply #26 on: July 18, 2023, 01:44:20 PM »
Florida & Georgia both had great TEs named Ben at the same time:  Ben Troupe and Ben Watson.  
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This doesn't need to be about the best ever, just a guy maybe your team couldn't cover or a guy who sticks in your mind.
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Re: Best TE you ever saw
« Reply #27 on: July 18, 2023, 01:54:44 PM »
Well George Kittle did play college football before the NFL but I will concede that the George Kittle that played at Iowa was not quite playing at the same level he has achieved in the NFL.  Partly due to Kittle being hurt often at Iowa and not being at full speed and strength.
Possibly also due to an offensive scheme that didn't take advantage of what they had. 

Looking up his stats, he was getting on average 2 catches per game his Jr and Sr year. If you take his entire NFL career, he's averaging 4.8 catches per game, and we all know that there are typically fewer offensive plays in the NFL game than college, so that's even more skewed. 

Assuming he didn't just magically develop into an elite pass catcher when he went to the 49ers, I think you'd have to blame some of his lack of production at Iowa on Captain Kirk. 

 

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