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Best #21
« on: June 27, 2018, 05:10:42 AM »
Vote to see results.  Think long and hard.  That's what she said.  College only.  Tip your waiter.
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Re: Best #21
« Reply #1 on: June 27, 2018, 08:28:50 AM »
Damn, loaded

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Re: Best #21
« Reply #2 on: June 27, 2018, 10:16:42 AM »
Everyone knows Sanders had the best single season ever.  But, if you wanted to, you could say his career numbers are lacking.  He rushed for fewer career yards than Ricky Williams.  No, not that Ricky Williams, the other one, from Texas Tech.  A near contemporary of the real Ricky Williams.

So there's that.
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Re: Best #21
« Reply #3 on: June 27, 2018, 10:19:34 AM »
Biakabatuka had perhaps the most impressive single game by a RB I've ever seen in their '95 upset of Ohio State.

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Re: Best #21
« Reply #4 on: June 27, 2018, 12:27:25 PM »
To prove I'm not a total Purdue homer, I actually voted for Calvin Johnson over Taylor Stubblefield. Stubblefield was a great college player; always managed to find and sit in holes in the zone and as a result had become the NCAA career receptions leader by the time he left the school. 

But I've never seen someone so amazingly dominant that he could make a QB like Reggie Ball look good. Calvin Johnson was a man amongst boys every time he stepped on a college football field [and then you could pretty well claim the same in the NFL--he was that good].

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Re: Best #21
« Reply #5 on: June 27, 2018, 01:26:37 PM »
Everyone knows Sanders had the best single season ever.  But, if you wanted to, you could say his career numbers are lacking.  He rushed for fewer career yards than Ricky Williams.  No, not that Ricky Williams, the other one, from Texas Tech.  A near contemporary of the real Ricky Williams.

So there's that.
John Burkett, Livan Hernandez and 207 other guys have more wins than Sandy Koufax.
Classic peak vs career. 

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Re: Best #21
« Reply #6 on: June 27, 2018, 04:41:05 PM »
To prove I'm not a total Purdue homer, I actually voted for Calvin Johnson over Taylor Stubblefield. Stubblefield was a great college player; always managed to find and sit in holes in the zone and as a result had become the NCAA career receptions leader by the time he left the school.

But I've never seen someone so amazingly dominant that he could make a QB like Reggie Ball look good. Calvin Johnson was a man amongst boys every time he stepped on a college football field [and then you could pretty well claim the same in the NFL--he was that good].
Well, considering your pro-Brees argument was that he was surrounded by bums, it's hard to argue one of those bums belongs a slot above guys like Desmond, Megatron or Barry Sanders, let alone the others.

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Re: Best #21
« Reply #7 on: June 27, 2018, 04:46:25 PM »
I saw GT play a lot back then.  They had a lot of 1-WR route plays - first by Dez White, then a couple years later, Johnson.  So they'd just lob the ball way downfield and let them make a play.  Easier to do when ur the size of a TE and have WR speed (Johnson).  

I couldn't claim he was as dynamic as Howard, though.  
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Re: Best #21
« Reply #8 on: June 27, 2018, 04:54:42 PM »
Best player may not be best stats.

Nor best known.  Glad to see Sinkwich make the list.  

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Re: Best #21
« Reply #9 on: June 27, 2018, 04:58:05 PM »
And we thought 20 was loaded ... And it was.

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Re: Best #21
« Reply #10 on: June 28, 2018, 10:27:33 AM »
I still voted Sanders.... that one season was special.   I'd take him over any of the other guys if I was starting a CF team

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Re: Best #21
« Reply #11 on: June 28, 2018, 12:05:49 PM »
Well, considering your pro-Brees argument was that he was surrounded by bums, it's hard to argue one of those bums belongs a slot above guys like Desmond, Megatron or Barry Sanders, let alone the others.
Well, I'm not saying I actually would have voted Stubblefield over the others. If I had given him a vote, it would purely have been a homer vote, not objective in any way. I was actually surprised he was included on this list at all. He was a short, slow, slot receiver that succeeded well beyond what anyone would have suggested, but I don't think he was ever in the running here. He was an amazing possession receiver, where possession receiver is the guy who isn't particularly notable for anything he does except somehow always being open just past the sticks on 3rd down. 

That said, per your argument, Stubblefield didn't play with Brees. He played during the Orton years. 

I sure wish either Brees or Orton had a Calvin Johnson to throw the ball to, though... For all that could be said about "basketball on grass" being a pass-happy offense, Tiller never really seemed to bring in the class of WR talent that you thought would be expected given that his system showcased the WRs so much.

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Re: Best #21
« Reply #12 on: June 28, 2018, 01:19:24 PM »
Biakabatuka had perhaps the most impressive single game by a RB I've ever seen in their '95 upset of Ohio State.
I went back and watched highlights of that game a few weeks ago - I hadn't remembered he came into the game with a leg injury.  His 300-yard day should be remembered more for the O-Line - he had all the room in the world to work with.
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« Reply #13 on: June 28, 2018, 01:43:16 PM »
I went back and watched highlights of that game a few weeks ago - I hadn't remembered he came into the game with a leg injury.  His 300-yard day should be remembered more for the O-Line - he had all the room in the world to work with.
I've posted that on these boards before, that the holes, particularly on the first couple drives were like nothing I've ever seen.  Our seats were high in the end zone, perfect for watching those things develop.

 

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