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medinabuckeye1

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« Reply #56 on: December 31, 2024, 09:27:04 AM »
I asked when my procedure was developed and was told "Around 1997, before that it was treated with drugs, and not very well"  (atrial flutter).  It had reduced me into "old man" status, I had trouble climbing stairs, and suddenly, was cured.  I know "medicine"  takes abuse for various reasons but a lot of it is life extending and life quality enhancing.
And then there is this odd conundrum:

Neither of my paternal grandparents suffered from any "old-age" type ailments.  They simply didn't live long enough.  Both died in their early 60's. 

My dad died at 80 after a 10+ year struggle with Alzheimer's.  That was brutal to go through but, OTOH, without modern medicine we wouldn't have had to go through it because he'd have died 15-20 years sooner and simply not lived long enough to get it. 

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« Reply #57 on: December 31, 2024, 09:28:02 AM »
Going in a week from today to have my right leg cleared out. Then a week after that for my left leg. Blockage free in two weeks.

Have lost quite a bit of weight and haven't had a smoke in 2 months.
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« Reply #58 on: December 31, 2024, 09:31:09 AM »


:o Cigars right?
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« Reply #59 on: December 31, 2024, 09:32:47 AM »
My maternal grandfather smoked often and died at 70.  My paternal relatives were long lived, I don't think any of them smoked, couldn't afford it in part.  Two of them lived past the century mark.  My parents made 93.  At some point, an unexpected or unusual ailment can catch a person, they break a leg and get immobile for a time and can't ever get it back.

I think being able to walk is a critical feature for older folks.  It's a huge enabler.  Obviously the mental aspect is also critical.  If you can walk and be sensible when you hit 80 it's a pretty good thing, just try and stay that way for many more years.

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« Reply #60 on: December 31, 2024, 09:53:27 AM »

:o Cigars right?
Yes. Not a good alternative to cigarettes, I've come to learn.
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« Reply #61 on: December 31, 2024, 09:58:16 AM »
I think being able to walk is a critical feature for older folks.  It's a huge enabler.  Obviously the mental aspect is also critical.  If you can walk and be sensible when you hit 80 it's a pretty good thing, just try and stay that way for many more years.
So true.

My mom turned 80 two weeks ago. Back in February she walked into the hospital for surgery. Recovery was a disaster and she is now what is called a "Hoyer Lift" because she is completely immobile. Her deterioration over ~10 months of not walking is astounding. 

Her mom lived to 103 and a year ago I had little reason to believe that she wouldn't match or at least approach that. Today she looks so elderly and frail that I'd be shocked if she lived five more years. 

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« Reply #62 on: December 31, 2024, 10:01:54 AM »
I get asked at times about retirement and where to retire, what surprised me, what I do with my time, etc.

My first comment is "Go where things encourage you to walk."  If you like golf or tennis, whatever, do it, move where it's easier to do.  I pretty much gave up golf many years ago.  I just saw my clubs yesterday in the storage room covered in dust and thought about going to the range.

I can still run and lift a bit, which is great, but if all I could manage was walking I'd feel lucky.  I'm not 80 (yet).

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« Reply #63 on: December 31, 2024, 10:16:55 AM »

:o Cigars right?
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« Reply #64 on: December 31, 2024, 01:24:53 PM »
And then there is this odd conundrum:

Neither of my paternal grandparents suffered from any "old-age" type ailments.  They simply didn't live long enough.  Both died in their early 60's. 

My dad died at 80 after a 10+ year struggle with Alzheimer's.  That was brutal to go through but, OTOH, without modern medicine we wouldn't have had to go through it because he'd have died 15-20 years sooner and simply not lived long enough to get it. 
This is a paradox within modern medicine. We are capable of prolonging life, but the life that is prolonged is often "brutal." The problem is identifying when to call it quits, i.e., when to turn off the faucet that is medical care. That is a very, very difficult decision, and one that most people haven't really put the necessary thought into. And that leads to providing the care at all costs, keeping it all going.
And it is one of the reasons our medical care is so expensive. The amount of money we spend to prolong life in the last year of life is immense (and largely on the medicare dime). But how to control that? "Death panels," anyone? :) 
Our family is currently in the throes of this. Very hard situation.

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« Reply #65 on: December 31, 2024, 01:35:05 PM »
This is a paradox within modern medicine. We are capable of prolonging life, but the life that is prolonged is often "brutal." The problem is identifying when to call it quits, i.e., when to turn off the faucet that is medical care. That is a very, very difficult decision, and one that most people haven't really put the necessary thought into. And that leads to providing the care at all costs, keeping it all going.
And it is one of the reasons our medical care is so expensive. The amount of money we spend to prolong life in the last year of life is immense (and largely on the medicare dime). But how to control that? "Death panels," anyone? :)
Our family is currently in the throes of this. Very hard situation.
I went through this in 2019. My Ma went in shortly after the new year and never came out.

She was deemed cancer-free the day after Thanksgiving, 2018, via a PET Scan.

The problem? PET Scans don't detect the brain, which was littered with cancer.

So, she tried for about a month or so. One day she looked at me, shook her head, and said "I'm ready to fly the coup".

I talked to my brothers and into hospice she went. 2 days later, she was gone.
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« Reply #66 on: December 31, 2024, 01:58:48 PM »
This is a paradox within modern medicine. We are capable of prolonging life, but the life that is prolonged is often "brutal." The problem is identifying when to call it quits, i.e., when to turn off the faucet that is medical care. That is a very, very difficult decision, and one that most people haven't really put the necessary thought into. And that leads to providing the care at all costs, keeping it all going.
And it is one of the reasons our medical care is so expensive. The amount of money we spend to prolong life in the last year of life is immense (and largely on the medicare dime). But how to control that? "Death panels," anyone? :)
Our family is currently in the throes of this. Very hard situation.
Having been there with my dad and heading there with my mom, good luck. Like you said, very hard situation. 

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« Reply #67 on: January 01, 2025, 08:16:40 AM »
Hospice care is a type of palliative care that focuses on providing comfort, dignity, and quality of life for people who are terminally ill or approaching the end of their life.


Is that a good definition?

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« Reply #68 on: January 01, 2025, 10:50:46 AM »
Hospice care is a type of palliative care that focuses on providing comfort, dignity, and quality of life for people who are terminally ill or approaching the end of their life.

Is that a good definition?
Yes. And additionally, typically in hospice you've given up on trying to "treat" the conditions that's killing someone, and stop any attempts at curative care. 

You're just trying to make them as comfortable as you can until they go. 

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« Reply #69 on: January 01, 2025, 10:57:09 AM »
My sister was in a "home" for about five years unable to move or speak, I don't recall that it was called hospice, but maybe it was the same kind of thing.  She passed away in October, which seems like a blessing.  

She started with symptoms maybe 12 years ago, slurring speech as if she was drunk, then difficulty walking, then all her motor skills just ebbed away unable to be  treated.  Her condition is called PLS, which is very similar to ALS.

My wife has told me on numerous occasions she doesn't not want to be resuscitated.  There still is a kind of blurry line in all that I think.

 

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