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Big Beef Tacosupreme · « **Reply #14 on:** October 27, 2019, 05:13:59 PM »

1. Ohio State - This team is looking like one of college football's all time greatest teams.

2. Penn State - Tough games against an undefeated Minnesota and a likely ranked 7WIndiana coming up. Minnesota could take over #2 if they beat them.

3. Minnesota - I don't know if I'm a believer in them yet, but they have looked really good, and they keep getting better.

4. Wisconsin - I'm not penalizing them for losing to OSU. That was the toughest anyone has played that team all year. I moved PSU up because they beat MSU, and I moved Minnesota up, too. In two weeks this team will almost certainly move up.

5. Michigan - The way they are playing now, could be ranked #2.

6. Iowa - They are winning the games they should, this is a solid team.

7. Michigan State - 3 losses to top 10 teams in a row. Illinois is looking tough, and Michigan is after that. No break for Dantonio's squad.

8. Indiana - If they beat Northwestern they will be 7-2. Then they have a bye before playing Penn State. I think they will be ranked for that game.

9. Illinois - I know that Nebraska beat them head to head, but right now I'd pick Illinois to win.

10. Nebraska - Disappointing year.

11. Purdue - Would probably be #9 on this list if they weren't decimated by injuries.

12. Maryland - still the worst coaching in the B1G.

13. Northwestern - Pretty shocked that Northwestern hasn't made the improvements they normally do.

14. Rutgers - Possibly better than Northwestern?

NorthernOhioBuckeye · « **Reply #15 on:** October 28, 2019, 07:16:13 AM »

1. Ohio State - They appear to be pretty good at football.

2. Penn State - Convincing win in East Lansing.
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3. Wisconsin - Played hard for 3 quarters until the game got away from them.
4. Michigan - Are the Wolverines getting things figured out on the Offense? If so, they will be a tough team to beat.

5. Minnesota - Moving them up after this performance. We'll find out in a couple of weeks how good they really are.
6. Iowa - Solid win against NW.
7. Michigan State - Not going to move them down yet. That 3 game stretch was brutal for them. Let's see how they shake out from here.
8. Indiana - Bowl eligible. Good win for them. Moving them into the middle tier.
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9. Illinois - Gotta move them up after these past 2 weeks. Playing the best out of this bottom tier of teams.
10. Nebraska - I would move them down, but nobody below is worthy of moving up ahead of them.
11. Northwestern - Not sure what to make of this team.
12. Purdue - Too many injuries to key players.
13. Maryland - Still not good
14. Rutgers - They should really consider a new hobby. Something less physically demanding. Perhaps they could get a game of tag going with Maryland.

ELA · « **Reply #16 on:** October 28, 2019, 08:36:08 AM »

OHIO STATE (1) - maybe I should stop doing their write ups for the opposite reason I have nothing left to say about Rutgers
PENN STATE (2) - second straight week they roared out of the gate
WISCONSIN (3) - until someone proves it's possible to not get blown out by Ohio State, I'm not docking anyone for it
MICHIGAN (4) - closer to the UW/PSU group than the middle group now though
MINNESOTA (5) - I'm legitimately excited, two weeks in advance, for Penn State-Minnesota
IOWA (6) - not the most fun game to watch
INDIANA (8) - first 8 win season since 1993 is very much on the table
MICHIGAN STATE (7) - I certainly wouldn't pick MSU to win a rematch with Indiana anymore
ILLINOIS (9) - does anyone think they won't win at least two more to get to a bowl game?
NEBRASKA (12) - the bottom of the Big Ten, where losing at home to Indiana...but close...moves you up two spots
PURDUE (10) - you do have to wonder how this impacts recruiting momentum
NORTHWESTERN (11) - Pat Fitzgerald needs to thank Dantonio for being equally offensively stubborn, but at a higher profile school
MARYLAND (13) - a lot of the fears about Mike Locksley's head coaching ability starting to surface
RUTGERS (14)

MaximumSam · « **Reply #17 on:** October 28, 2019, 05:26:41 PM »

SP+

1. OSU (1)
2. PSU (7)
3. Wisconsin (8)
4. Miichigan (11)
5. Minnesota (12) (Yes the B1G has 5 of the top 12)
6. Iowa (20)
7. Indiana (23) (7 of the top 23, Hoosiers highest rated in the state)
8. MSU (29)

9. Nebraska (44)
10. Purdue (55)
11. Maryland (56)
12. Illinois (59)
13. Northwestern (76)

14. Rutgers (105)

Abba · « **Reply #18 on:** October 28, 2019, 06:56:12 PM »

Quote from: ELA on October 28, 2019, 08:36:08 AM

10. NEBRASKA (12) - the bottom of the Big Ten, where losing at home to Indiana...but close...moves you up two spots

Nothing against Nebraska as it is one of my favorite environments, but that is pretty funny.

medinabuckeye1 · « **Reply #19 on:** October 29, 2019, 12:11:18 PM »

Ohio State - 1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1 - I was REALLY impressed with that game. The weather forced tOSU to play Wisconsin's style and the Buckeyes proceeded to bludgeon the Badgers at their own game.
Penn State - 2,3,3,3,3,3,3,3,4 - Next game is an undefeated-vs-undefeated match with . . . Minnesota.
Wisconsin - 3,2,2,2,2,2,2,4,3 - That Michigan game now feels like it was a year ago rather than a month. The Iowa game in two weeks is huge.
Michigan - 4,4,4,5,5,4,4,2,2 - 0-2 against teams above this, 3-0 against teams below this.
Iowa - 5,5,5,4,4,5,6,5,6 - Looked good, Wisconsin game in two weeks is huge.
Minnesota - 6,6,9,10,10,10,8,13,10 - Undefeated but I still don't trust them. We'll find out in two weeks.
Michigan State - 7,7,6,6,6,7,7,7,9 - 0-3 against teams above this, 2-0 against teams below this.
Indiana - 10,10,11,11,11,11,13,12,12 - Close but they got the W.
Illinois - 13,13,13,13,13,13,12,11,13 - Does anyone think they would lose to Nebraska if the two played again?
Nebraska - 11,11,8,9,8,6,9,6,8 - off.
Purdue - 9,9,12,12,12,12,11,10,5 - Bowl plans cancelled.
Northwestern - 8,8,7,7,9,9,10,9,7 - Ouch.
Maryland - 12,12,10,8,7,8,5,8,11 - What happened to this season? Haven't I asked that about this team in previous seasons as well?
Rutgers - 14,14,14,14,14,14,14,14,14 - Still Rutgers.

The Loon · « **Reply #20 on:** October 29, 2019, 01:10:30 PM »

1) OSU
2) Wisconsin
3) PSU
4) Michigan
5) Iowa
6) MSU
7) Minnesota
8) Indiana
9) Illinois
10) Nebraska
11) Maryland
12) Purdue

13) NW

14) Rutgers

medinabuckeye1 · « **Reply #21 on:** October 30, 2019, 01:04:52 PM »

Results posted, votes through The Loon, 16 voters.

There was very little change this week:

Illinois was up 1.5 spots from 11th into a tie with Nebraska for 9th/10th.
Nebraska was down 0.5 spots into the aforementioned tie.
Purdue was down one spot to 11th.

The gap between #7 MSU and #8 Indiana has gotten VERY small. Two weeks ago when Indiana moved up into 8th place and Michigan State moved down into 7th place, the gap between them was humongous, 2.28. Now it is less than 0.5.

At this point in the season most teams' rankings are relatively locked in. Ie, Ohio State can't fall THAT far because no matter what happens from here out they'll still have that big win over Wisconsin propping them up. Similarly, Rutgers can't rise THAT far because no matter what happens from here out they'll still have that blowout loss to Maryland holding them back. The biggest exception to that is Minnesota. They are 5-0 but their wins are over:

The two teams tied for 9th/10th, Nebraska and Illinois
#11 Purdue
#13 Maryland
#14 Rutgers

They are currently fifth but their ceiling is unlimited. If they beat Penn State in their next game they will almost have to move to #2. Their floor, however, is pretty low. If they start losing they could pretty easily fall to #8.

That PSU/MN game probably has more B1G Power Ranking impact on one team than any game I can remember.  Minnesota probably moves to #2 with a win and with a loss they drop to at least sixth and possibly as low as eighth.

COTY:
I refer to my "change so far this year" graph as the COTY prediction table because that award generally goes to the coach of the team that most exceeded expectations. That also explains why it hasn't been won by an Ohio State coach in 40 years. Ohio State, right now, is as high as they could possibly be. They are a unanimous #1 but on the COTY table they are a pedestrian sixth place only 0.65 ahead of where they started. The expectations in Columbus are generally so high that the Ohio State coach is effectively ineligible for this award. Who will win COTY?

At this point I think it is PJ Fleck's to lose. I cannot imagine a scenario in which Minnesota goes to Indianapolis and Fleck does not get COTY.

If Minnesota stumbles then I think COTY is between Tom Allen (Indiana) and Lovie Smith (Illinois). The only other potential winner, IMHO, is James Franklin (PSU).

medinabuckeye1 · « **Reply #22 on:** October 30, 2019, 01:16:07 PM »

This week's games by Power Ranking:

#1 Ohio State is off
#2 Penn State is off
#3 Wisconsin is off
#4 Michigan at #13 Maryland
#5 Minnesota is off
#6 Iowa is off
#7 Michigan State is off
#8 Indiana vs #12 Northwestern
#9/10 Nebraska at #11 Purdue
#9/10 Illinois vs #14 Rutgers

Wow, what a lightweight schedule. Six teams are off and they constitute six of the top seven in the league. Of the four games being played, Nebraska at Purdue seems to be the most interesting from a rankings perspective.

Since there are so few games this week, I'll peek ahead to next week:

#1 Ohio State vs #13 Maryland
#2 Penn State at #5 Minnesota
#3 Wisconsin vs #6 Iowa
#4 Michigan is off
#7 Michigan State vs #9/10 Illinois
#8 Indiana is off
#9/10 Nebraska is off
#11 Purdue at #12 Northwestern

Next week's slate is REALLY interesting. PSU/MN is HUGE for the B1G-W race. The Wisconsin/Iowa winner really could use a PSU win. UW/IA is conditionally the biggest game of the week, conditional on MN losing to PSU. Michigan State/Illinois will show us how far MSU has fallen and how far Illinois has risen. Purdue/Northwestern matches two teams currently adjacent in the Power Rankings so I'm always interested in that.

LittlePig · « **Reply #23 on:** October 30, 2019, 01:38:06 PM »

2 weeks ago, I would have insisted that Paul Chryst would be the runaway winner of the COTY

FearlessF · « **Reply #24 on:** October 30, 2019, 02:12:08 PM »

PJ if he can win two or more down the stretch

otherwise the new guy in C-Bus

medinabuckeye1 · « **Reply #25 on:** October 30, 2019, 03:41:44 PM »

Quote from: FearlessF on October 30, 2019, 02:12:08 PM

PJ if he can win two or more down the stretch

otherwise the new guy in C-Bus

I just can't see Day winning but I guess it *COULD* happen. The last Ohio State Coach to win it was Earle Bruce in 1979. It was a somewhat similar situation.

Bruce followed a legend (Hayes).
Day followed a legend (Meyer).
Bruce's first team was expected to be good, but not necessarily NC level good.
Day's first team was expected to be good, but not necessarily NC level good.
Bruce's first team had an undefeated regular season (11-0)
Day's first team is undefeated so far (8-0)
Bruce's first team entered the Rose Bowl undefeated and ranked #1 playing #3 USC for a NC.
Day's first team is up to #3 and controls their own destiny to the CFP

Here is where the similarities end:

Bruce's first team started out UNRANKED.
Day's first team started out ranked #5.
Woody's last team (the year prior to Bruce's COTY) went 7-4-1 and finished unranked.
Meyer's last team (last year) went 13-1 and finished ranked #3.
The three years prior to Bruce's first year the Buckeyes finished 7-4-1 and unranked, 9-3 and #11, and 9-2-1 and #6.
The three years prior to Day's first year the Buckeyes finished 13-1 and #3, 12-2 and #5, and 11-2 and #6.

I just don't see it. I'd like to see it, but I do not think it will happen unless Minnesota, Indiana, and Illinois all crash and burn.

FearlessF · « **Reply #26 on:** October 30, 2019, 04:22:39 PM »

well, Lovie ain't gonna get it and Brutus will tell you that it won't be Harbaugh

I think the guy in Hoosierville would need to pull off an upset over Penn St, or Michigan, or both to win it

It's PJ Barnum's to lose IMO

ELA · « **Reply #27 on:** November 02, 2019, 02:48:18 PM »

Forgot to post these this week, updated Massey composite computer ranking, with 112 rankings (last week in parenthesis)

OHIO STATE (1)
LSU (2)
Clemson (3)
PENN STATE (5)
Alabama (4)
Auburn (7)
Oregon (8)
Florida (9)
Oklahoma (6)
Utah (13)
Baylor (11)
WISCONSIN (10)
MICHIGAN (23)
MINNESOTA (17)
Cincinnati (15)
Georgia (14)
SMU (16)
IOWA (22)
Appalachian State (18)
Notre Dame (12)
Central Florida (-)
Boise State (24)
Navy (-)
Memphis (21)
Kansas State (-)

34. Michigan State (30)
35. Indiana (41)
63. Nebraska (58)
66. Illinois (85)
88. Purdue (75)
90. Maryland (82)
96. Northwestern (90)
118. Rutgers (121)

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