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medinabuckeye1 · « **on:** November 08, 2020, 01:29:18 AM »

Link to last week's rankings
Link to last week's rankings.

Votes through @ELA , 17 voters (with adjustments by @847badgerfan and @Brutus Buckeye to include Wisconsin):

Drop the high and low:

Graphic representation:

Vote distribution:

Change from preseason (aka the COTY/Hot Seat chart):

Schedule/performance chart:

LittlePig · « **Reply #1 on:** November 08, 2020, 03:46:35 AM »

I reserve the right to come back and tweak my answer but here is what I am thinking right now.

1 OSU
OSU is the clear #1. The only no- brainer on the list.
2 Wisc
Not much to go on except a week one blow-out win over 0-3 ILL. An actual game against purdue would have really helped sort out the rankings.
3. Indy
Convincing win over Mich helps me believe
4. NW
NW has a very good defense. The week one blow-out win over MD looks more impressive now.
5. Purdue
An actual game against Wisc would have really helped sort out the rankings
6. Iowa
Good old Iowa. Never wins the games it needs to in order to win the West, but can always blow out the teams that don't matter
7. Mich
For now I am going to treat Mich's loss to MSU as a fluke but the loss to Indy as legit.
8. Minn
Minn very close to being 2-1 but loss badly to Mich. Its loss to MD was by 1 point on the road. That's enough to stay above MD
9. MD
MD makes a big jump up this week, but I have been fooled by MD before.
10. PSU
I got this nagging feeling I am dropping PSU too far down but they are 0-3 and they lost to MD!!! By 16 points!!!
11. Rut
Rutgers is actually competitive this year, which is a big improvement from last year.
12. Neb
Neb may not actually be as bad as #12 but they are 0-2 and I got to put somebody here.
13. MSU
Treating the win over Mich as a fluke and loss to Rutgers as legit. MSU could not have looked any worse against Iowa.
14. ILL.
Blown out twice in an 0-3 start.

847badgerfan · « **Reply #2 on:** November 08, 2020, 06:54:52 AM »

1. Ohio State
2. Indiana
3. Northwestern
4. Purdue

<<Pukes in mouth>>

5. Maryland
6. Minnesota
7. Iowa
8. Rutgers
9. Michigan State
10. Nebraska
11. Michigan
12. Penn State
13. Illinois

MaximumSam · « **Reply #3 on:** November 08, 2020, 07:20:41 AM »

1. Ohio State: Probably the best in show, but this isn't last year's team. While Fields and the receivers are spectacular, we are back to our questions about the running game and defense. Both Nebraska and Rutgers brought a physicality to the game that OSU struggled to match. OSU was straight up bad against Rutgers in the second half yesterday. I thought they solved those against PSU, but maybe PSU just sucks.

2. Wisconsin: I suppose. They looked good when we last saw them, but everyone has looked good against Illinois.

3. Indiana: I thought Indiana could beat Michigan. I did not expect a straight up ass whipping. They are rounding into form and can definitely give the Buckeyes a run for their money in a couple weeks. Penix can deal at quarterback, and if their defense is fast and active like they were yesterday, they can win the conference.

4. Northwestern: Back to being good Northwestern where they play great defense and score just enough points to win,. They have a great shot in the West. They were somehow outgained by 100 yards by Nebraska, but they are undefeated. Scoreboard don't always lie.

5. Purdue: No big game against Wiscy to figure out where they are. But they are undefeated and can run the table for the West. Not sold on their defense, but the big Purdue/Northwestern tilt next week should solve some issues for us.

6. Iowa: Good old Iowa. I was a little worried, because 0-3 Iowa makes no sense. 1-2 Iowa makes more sense.

7. Maryland: I mean, is Maryland good? I admit I had no faith at all in them, and getting waxed by Northwestern and a very tight win over Minny isn't inspirational. But laying a whooping on Penn State has to open some eyes.

8. Michigan: I have to think they will be better than this, but watching Indiana go up and down the field on them yesterday was stunning. The offense and Milton are ok, but ok doesn't cut it when you can't stop people.

9. Penn State: No words. What happened to them?

10. Nebraska: Playing with some spunk, might just be unlucky in their schedule. They get PSU this week - a breather?

11. Minnesota: They started slow last year, maybe again this year? Actually played a little defense yesterday.

12. Rutgers: Play with a lot of spunk. Need more dudes.

13. MSU: Not an inspiring performance.

14. Illinois: Lovie's last dance

Honestbuckeye · « **Reply #4 on:** November 08, 2020, 08:21:14 AM »

Quote from: MaximumSam on November 08, 2020, 07:20:41 AM

1. Ohio State: Probably the best in show, but this isn't last year's team. While Fields and the receivers are spectacular, we are back to our questions about the running game and defense. Both Nebraska and Rutgers brought a physicality to the game that OSU struggled to match. OSU was straight up bad against Rutgers in the second half yesterday. I thought they solved those against PSU, but maybe PSU just sucks.

2. Wisconsin: I suppose. They looked good when we last saw them, but everyone has looked good against Illinois.

3. Indiana: I thought Indiana could beat Michigan. I did not expect a straight up ass whipping. They are rounding into form and can definitely give the Buckeyes a run for their money in a couple weeks. Penix can deal at quarterback, and if their defense is fast and active like they were yesterday, they can win the conference.

4. Northwestern: Back to being good Northwestern where they play great defense and score just enough points to win,. They have a great shot in the West. They were somehow outgained by 100 yards by Nebraska, but they are undefeated. Scoreboard don't always lie.

5. Purdue: No big game against Wiscy to figure out where they are. But they are undefeated and can run the table for the West. Not sold on their defense, but the big Purdue/Northwestern tilt next week should solve some issues for us.

6. Iowa: Good old Iowa. I was a little worried, because 0-3 Iowa makes no sense. 1-2 Iowa makes more sense.

7. Maryland: I mean, is Maryland good? I admit I had no faith at all in them, and getting waxed by Northwestern and a very tight win over Minny isn't inspirational. But laying a whooping on Penn State has to open some eyes.

8. Michigan: I have to think they will be better than this, but watching Indiana go up and down the field on them yesterday was stunning. The offense and Milton are ok, but ok doesn't cut it when you can't stop people.

9. Penn State: No words. What happened to them?

10. Nebraska: Playing with some spunk, might just be unlucky in their schedule. They get PSU this week - a breather?

11. Minnesota: They started slow last year, maybe again this year? Actually played a little defense yesterday.

12. Rutgers: Play with a lot of spunk. Need more dudes.

13. MSU: Not an inspiring performance.

14. Illinois: Lovie's last dance

Very good assessment.

Brutus Buckeye · « **Reply #5 on:** November 08, 2020, 08:46:06 AM »

1 Ohio State
2 Indiana
3 Northwestern
4 Purdue
5 Iowa
6 Maryland
7 Penn State
8 Nebraska
9 Rutgers
10 Michigan tate
11 Michigan
12 Minnesota
13 Illinois

FearlessF · « **Reply #6 on:** November 08, 2020, 12:52:56 PM »

1. Ohio State
2. Indiana
3. Northwestern
4. Purdue
5. Wisconsin
6. Maryland
7. Iowa
8. Minnesota
9. Michigan State
10. Rutgers
11. Penn State
12. Nebraska
13. Michigan
14. Illinois

fezzador · « **Reply #7 on:** November 08, 2020, 03:33:53 PM »

1) Ohio State
2) Indiana
3) Wisconsin
4) Northwestern
5) Purdue
6) Maryland
7) Iowa
8) Minnesota
9) Michigan State
10) Michigan
11) Rutgers
12) Nebraska
13) Penn State
14) Illinois

I never thought it would come down to Ohio State and Indiana for East supremacy. Sparty, UM and PSU have all fallen off the face of the Earth this year and have just two wins among all three. Maryland and Rutgers look feisty but neither appear to be real players (except maybe to play spoiler).

West is a whole freaking mess right now. Wisconsin for all intents and purposes looks to be the best, but Northwestern and Purdue remain unbeaten as well. Iowa and Minnesota have righted their ships this week, and Nebraska and Illinois might be looking for new coaches soon, yet again.

Benthere2 · « **Reply #8 on:** November 08, 2020, 05:43:15 PM »

1.OSU- if they had 30 COVID cases they could still beat a lot of BigTen teams
2.Indiana- Great game showing why they are undefeated
3.Purdue- can’t help they didn’t get a chance to play
4.Northwestern- Keeps it rolling, but a close game to an 0-fer team
5.Maryland- is showing they have some talent, and if you are not OSU you better be at full strength
6.Iowa- will get another win this week
7.Wisconsin- by default, will they play against a down Michigan team desperately in need of a win
8.Minnesota- slowly guys return. offense is good (Mo is the best in the BigTen)
9.Nebraska- losing to OSU and keeping NU close gets you a little credit
10.Michigan- Guessing beating MN with guys out is not that impressive
11.MSU- Dr Jekyll and Mr. Hyde , no idea if the roller coaster ride has stopped
12. Rutgers- back to Rutgers but there is some light at the end of a tunnel here
13.PSU- they can’t be the bottom
14.Illinois- the Bottom is here With Rutgers this week maybe they can get the #14 luck and win one

MaximumSam · « **Reply #9 on:** November 08, 2020, 09:42:57 PM »

SP+

1. OSU (2)
2. Wisconsin (4)
3. PSU (14)
4. Michigan (18)
5. Iowa (16)
6. Indiana (29)
7. Minnesota (31)
8. Northwestern (33)
9. Nebraska (34)
10. Purdue (35)
11. MSU (62)
12. Maryland (68)
13. Illinois (83)
14. Rutgers (107)

Hawkinole · « **Reply #10 on:** November 08, 2020, 11:21:00 PM »

1 Ohio State
2 Indiana
3 Northwestern
4 Purdue
5 Iowa
6 Maryland
7 Rutgers
8 Wisconsin
9 Penn State
10 Nebraska
11 Michigan State
12 Michigan
13 Minnesota
14 Illinois

Temp430 · « **Reply #11 on:** November 09, 2020, 07:12:13 AM »

1. Ohio State
2. Indiana
3. Wisconsin
4. Northwestern
5. Purdue
6. Maryland
7. Iowa
8. Rutgers
9. Michigan State
10. Michigan
11. Minnesota
12. Nebraska
13. Penn State
14. Illinois

LetsGoPeay · « **Reply #12 on:** November 09, 2020, 09:46:40 AM »

Ohio State
Wisconsin (I know they haven't played but I still feel like they're #1 in the west and #2 overall)
Northwestern
Indiana
Purdue
Iowa
Maryland
Minnesota
Michigan
Penn State
Nebraska
Rutgers
Michigan State
Illinois

medinabuckeye1 · « **Reply #13 on:** November 09, 2020, 11:42:55 AM »

Trying something a little different because the middle is such a jumbled mess:

Here is how each team has done in their games so far compared to the other teams that played those same opponents:
Notes:

I'm just using raw score except that I consider an OT game to be closer than a game decided in regulation.
Other than the exception for OT, each team's opponents are ranked based on how those opponents did against that team relative to each other.
I've left Illinois' game against Wisconsin off of the list because it tells us nothing since it is both the best and the worst performance against Wisconsin so far this year.
For the two teams each that have played PU and UNL, I ranked them #1 and #3 to be consistent with the other rankings since they only have two opponents instead of three (ie, the best is #1 and the worst is #3).

Example, against Ohio State:

PSU is #1, having only lost to the Buckeyes by 13
Rutgers is #3, having lost to the Buckeyes by 22
Nebraska is #3, having lost to the Buckeyes by 35

Teams by the average on this scale:

Average of #1:

Wisconsin: I'm basically ignoring this since it is only one game.
Iowa: This is somewhat surprising since the Hawkeyes are just 1-2, but all three games are the best any team has done against that opponent so far this year.

Average of 1.33:

Ohio State: The Buckeyes were #1 against RU and UNL and #2 (behind UMD) against PSU.

Average of 1.67:

Penn State: Despite being 0-3, Penn State's performances other than against UMD were #1 so far this year.

Average of #2:

Indiana: The Hoosiers were #1 against Michigan, #2 against Rutgers, and #3 against PSU.
Northwestern: The Wildcats were #1 against UMD, #2 against Iowa, and #3 against UNL.
Purdue: The Boilermakers were #1 against Iowa and #3 against Illinois.
Rutgers: The Scarlet Knights were #2 against all three of their opponents (tOSU, IU, and MSU).
Maryland: The Terps were #1 against PSU, #2 against MN, and #3 against NU.

Average of 2.33:

Michigan: The Wolverines were #1 against MN, and #3 against the Hoosiers and Spartans.
Minnesota: The Gophers were #2 against UMD and IL and #3 against Michigan.

Average of 2.5:

Nebraska: The Cornhuskers were #2 against NU and #3 against tOSU.

Average of 2.67:

Michigan State: The Spartans were #2 against M and #3 against IA and RU.

Average of #3:

Illinois: The Illini have the worst performance of the year against both the Boilermakers and the Gophers.

These are NOT my rankings. I'm just using this as a tool to evaluate each team's performances.

Things that jump out at me:

Iowa's average of #1 is impressive. They are 1-2 but they are also two plays from 3-0 and so far no team has done better against any of Iowa's opponents.
Penn State's average of 1.67 is interesting. Their season-opening loss to Indiana is looking better each week and there is no shame in losing to Ohio State by 13 but I don't know what to make of that loss to Maryland. The worst part is that it wasn't even as close as the final score made it look. Penn State "only" lost by 16 but they were down by 28 in the fourth quarter before making it look a little better with a couple of late TD's.
Illinois' average of #3 confirms that they are just awful.

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