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Topic: B1G Power Rankings, week 1

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LittlePig

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Re: B1G Power Rankings, week 1
« Reply #28 on: October 27, 2020, 03:41:08 PM »
1. OSU
2. PSU
3. Wisc
4. Mich
5. Indy
6. NW
7.  Iowa
8.  Minn
9.  Pur
10. Neb
11. ILL
12. Rut
13. MSU
14. MD
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medinabuckeye1

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Re: B1G Power Rankings, week 1
« Reply #29 on: October 27, 2020, 04:12:17 PM »
Quote from: Benthere2 on October 27, 2020, 03:09:51 PM
this all assumes no injuries or COVID related absences- Wisconsin will have a chance this week to start a 3rd or 4th string QB and how many others might be lost( hell Mertz was congratulated by almost everyone on the team for his near perfect game)

I can say that the team Michigan beat up on Saturday night was not the same team that without COVID and injuries and opt outs would have played

But we are in a a weird world and COVID is/has affected some teams more than others and through the year could hit even OSU hard

Heck Michigans player threw up twice on the filed and the medical staff didnt pull him form the game (hope he tests negative or more players could be out)
This is all true and I have no idea how I am going to adjust my Power Rankings for it.  First off, I'm not even sure how it works, is the first positive test date day 1 or day zero?  That could be the difference between three or four games out.  

Wisconsin's next three games are:
  • @ Nebraska on 10/31
  • v Purdue on 11/7
  • @ Michigan on 11/14

If half their starters are out and they go 0-3 through those then we could argue that they should be ranked something like #10-#12 based on that performance but if everybody comes back for their 11/21 game at Northwestern I'll still expect them to win in Evanston.  

So I don't know how to handle it.  If a bunch of UW starters are out then I think that, in theory, I should temporarily drop them an appropriate number of spots to reflect that reality then push them back up when they get those guys back even if they lost some games in the interim.  

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medinabuckeye1

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Re: B1G Power Rankings, week 1
« Reply #30 on: October 27, 2020, 04:16:11 PM »
I added in @LittlePig 's vote.  The order doesn't change and I'm not re-compiling but I will use the new totals for the charts going forward.  
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Re: B1G Power Rankings, week 1
« Reply #31 on: October 28, 2020, 12:56:20 AM »
1. OSU
2. Mich
3. Wisc
4. Indy
5. PSU
6. NW
7.  Pur
8.  Iowa
9.  Minn
10. Neb
11. Rut
12. Illinois
13. MSU
14. Maryland
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Brutus Buckeye

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Re: B1G Power Rankings, week 1
« Reply #32 on: October 28, 2020, 11:32:24 AM »
Quote from: medinabuckeye1 on October 25, 2020, 12:45:42 AM
Link to last week. 

Raw votes:
[img width=477.619 height=213]https://i.imgur.com/Iv3AbPN.png[/img]
Drop the highest and lowest vote for each team:
[img width=477.619 height=213]https://i.imgur.com/BkCDIZd.png[/img]
Visual representation with changes so far this year:


It looks like Indiana is 4 and Penn St is 5 according to the data in the table, but they are listed in the reverse order. Very perplexing.

Which column is it sorted by?
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SFBadger96

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Re: B1G Power Rankings, week 1
« Reply #33 on: October 28, 2020, 11:51:35 AM »
What's it look like now that it's the B13? I suppose most everyone (except Ohio State) moves up one.
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medinabuckeye1

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Re: B1G Power Rankings, week 1
« Reply #34 on: October 28, 2020, 03:48:38 PM »
Quote from: Brutus Buckeye on October 28, 2020, 11:32:24 AM
It looks like Indiana is 4 and Penn St is 5 according to the data in the table, but they are listed in the reverse order. Very perplexing.

Which column is it sorted by?
You are right, IU was #4 and PSU was #5 based on the raw votes when I posted the compilation but it was VERY close and I sort based on the second table, after removing the highest and lowest for each team.  

When I posted there were 11 votes.  IU had a high of #3, a low of #7, and an average of 4.91 while PSU had a high of #4, a low of #8, and an average of exactly 5.  

Removing the high and low votes for each helped PSU relative to IU because it removed IU's #3 and PSU's #8.  However, I apparently pasted the first table rather than the second so it looks screwy.  Sorry about that.  

@LittlePig fixed this issue for me by voting PSU #2 and IU #5.  It is VERY close after adding his and @Hawkinole 's vote but:
  • PSU is #4 with an average of 4.77 before dropping the high and low and 4.73 after.  
  • IU is #5 with an average of 4.85 before dropping the high and low and 4.82 after.  

The difference, in both cases, is literally one spot:
  • Penn State has one for #2, six for #4, three for #5, one for #6, one for #7, and one for #8, total of 62.  
  • Indiana has one for #3, four for #4, five for #5, two for #6, and one for #7, total of 63.  

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medinabuckeye1

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Re: B1G Power Rankings, week 1
« Reply #35 on: October 28, 2020, 03:51:39 PM »
Quote from: SFBadger96 on October 28, 2020, 11:51:35 AM
What's it look like now that it's the B13? I suppose most everyone (except Ohio State) moves up one.
Yeah, who knows what to do with that.  We always say "who would win on a neutral field tomorrow" and since UW can't play tomorrow (or Saturday) they aren't really eligible but I don't think we should eliminate them, just carry them along as what we think they are until we can learn more.  

Where it gets really screwy is if a non-full-strength Wisconsin loses next weekend to a full-strength Purdue (as @bwarbiany suggested in another thread).  Then what?  Do we move Purdue up and Wisconsin down based on the result or leave them be on the assumption that a full-strength Wisconsin (when that reappears) would be better than a full-strength Purdue?  
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