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Topic: B1G academics, and who I *THINK* additional new members will be
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847badgerfan · « **Reply #14 on:** July 23, 2022, 10:00:20 AM »

I don't think they ever joined the alliance. I'm sure they would be welcome to if interested.

Chicago got out due to expansion of the conference.

FearlessF · « **Reply #15 on:** July 23, 2022, 10:09:11 AM »

Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on July 23, 2022, 12:00:23 AM

Yeah, the one thing showing the most resistance to streaming (in a good, healthy way) is live sports. Seems like people will consume nearly anything else on a delay or watch-when-you-want, except for live sports.

well, obviously live events can be streamed

whatever transport media is used, that doesn't matter. Content is king and has value. Live sports especially football has value.
the honks who own the content want their $$$, regardless how it's delivered to whatever device

streaming had some great pricing early on to try to buy market share
eventually they had to raise prices to build a sustainable business plan.

Because they always had to pay the same as the traditional CATV providers for the content

847badgerfan · « **Reply #16 on:** July 23, 2022, 10:18:22 AM »

Everything I watch is streamed now. Not that I watch much. Have not turned on the boob tube since we landed up here on 6/30.

utee94 · « **Reply #17 on:** July 23, 2022, 10:30:12 AM »

Quote from: 847badgerfan on July 23, 2022, 10:00:20 AM

I don't think they ever joined the alliance. I'm sure they would be welcome to if interested.

They were offered and considered it but declined, for whatever reasons. I'd guess they pretty much have a standing offer, though.

847badgerfan · « **Reply #18 on:** July 23, 2022, 10:36:52 AM »

Yep. And I'm sure Chicago would be welcome to come back.

LittlePig · « **Reply #19 on:** July 23, 2022, 10:39:16 AM »

Quote from: utee94 on July 23, 2022, 10:30:12 AM

They were offered and considered it but declined, for whatever reasons. I'd guess they pretty much have a standing offer, though.

Maybe deep down John Hopkins knows that they may not be a member of Big Ten LAX forever. Once a few more Big Ten schools add LAX, the Big Ten may not need affiliate members anymore.

847badgerfan · « **Reply #20 on:** July 23, 2022, 10:44:08 AM »

Quote from: LittlePig on July 23, 2022, 10:39:16 AM

Maybe deep down John Hopkins knows that they may not be a member of Big Ten LAX forever. Once a few more Big Ten schools add LAX, the Big Ten may not need affiliate members anymore.

At first I thought you were talking about adding LAX, which already happened.

Then I realized you were talking about Lacrosse. Heh.

FearlessF · « **Reply #21 on:** July 23, 2022, 10:55:18 AM »

Quote from: 847badgerfan on July 23, 2022, 10:18:22 AM

Everything I watch is streamed now. Not that I watch much. Have not turned on the boob tube since we landed up here on 6/30.

I easily go a week at a time w/o turning on the tube
especially this time of year
college football and college hoops change things

847badgerfan · « **Reply #22 on:** July 23, 2022, 11:03:05 AM »

Friday nights are good watching. DDD baby!!

FearlessF · « **Reply #23 on:** July 23, 2022, 11:07:22 AM »

“Holy moly, Stromboli!”

medinabuckeye1 · « **Reply #24 on:** July 23, 2022, 04:36:01 PM »

Quote from: utee94 on July 23, 2022, 10:30:12 AM

They were offered and considered it but declined, for whatever reasons. I'd guess they pretty much have a standing offer, though.

They definitely have a standing offer anywhere they want. From the link I posted earlier John's Hopkins is #1 in research spending, almost double #2.

TyphonInc · « **Reply #25 on:** July 23, 2022, 11:12:27 PM »

I also love MB posts, and I love all the data. Unfortunately I think this is a bit off.
See, TV money is driving this 100%, If you get more premier match ups, you get more eyeballs watching. It helps the TV companies to add big names together. There is nothing else influencing this right now.

The B1G Academic alliance doesn't share money, or have the money increase by adding schools. Each individual university is still 100% responsible in procuring their own research grants. What is super cool about the alliance is the removal of obstacles to allow for sharing of research, and to allow for collaboration of bigger projects. It's amazing how the B1G alliance is the largest research instruction on the planet, and I am all for adding incredible research universities to the B1G, but this current round of expansions have given up all pretense and it is %100 Football TV dollars driven.

medinabuckeye1 · « **Reply #26 on:** July 25, 2022, 10:48:12 AM »

Quote from: TyphonInc on July 23, 2022, 11:12:27 PM

I also love MB posts, and I love all the data. Unfortunately I think this is a bit off.
See, TV money is driving this 100%, If you get more premier match ups, you get more eyeballs watching. It helps the TV companies to add big names together. There is nothing else influencing this right now.

The B1G Academic alliance doesn't share money, or have the money increase by adding schools. Each individual university is still 100% responsible in procuring their own research grants. What is super cool about the alliance is the removal of obstacles to allow for sharing of research, and to allow for collaboration of bigger projects. It's amazing how the B1G alliance is the largest research instruction on the planet, and I am all for adding incredible research universities to the B1G, but this current round of expansions have given up all pretense and it is %100 Football TV dollars driven.

Maybe I'm off here but as I see it sharing and collaborating on research is a little like lending/borrowing power tools with your neighbor: If @TyphonInc has LOTS of power tools and I have few this is a good deal for me and a crappy deal for him. However, if we both have lots of power tools this is a good deal for both of us.

Pursuing that analogy, John's Hopkins is the best possible neighbor with Michigan #2. Almost the entire B1G including UCLA and USC are at least decent neighbors to share with. Fourteen of the 16 are in the top-41 nationally with only Iowa (52) and Nebraska (81) falling short of that. Adding more good neighbors like Washington (5), Stanford (10), and UNC (13) would almost have to make the Big Ten Academic Alliance stronger. It would be like Ty and I adding neighbor @847badgerfan who also has LOTS of power tools to our power tool sharing arrangement. OTOH, Ty and I adding some guy who doesn't have many power tools would be like the B1G adding Notre Dame.

I get that TV money is a driving force here but the research money IS bigger. I am sure that the schools recognize that. I would think that the relative strength of a potential new contributor to the research collective is at least a consideration.

FearlessF · « **Reply #27 on:** July 25, 2022, 10:50:33 AM »

John's Hopkins football isn't valuable

therefore, no invite

if there's an invite it academic only

academics and athletics are tow separate things

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