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AP Preseason Top 25
« on: August 12, 2024, 01:24:52 PM »
AP Preseason Top 25

1. Georgia
2. Ohio State
3. Oregon
4. Texas
5. Alabama
6. Ole Miss
7. Notre Dame
8. Penn State
9. Michigan
10. Florida State
11. Missouri
12. Utah
13. LSU
14. Clemson
15. Tennessee
16. Oklahoma
17. Oklahoma State
18. Kansas State
19. Miami
20. Texas AM
21. Arizona
22. Kansas
23. USC
24. NC State
25. Iowa


https://athlonsports.com/college-football/ap-preseason-top-25-released-for-2024-college-football-season-georgia-bulldogs-ohio-state-buckeyes
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Re: AP Preseason Top 25
« Reply #1 on: August 12, 2024, 01:30:25 PM »
I like these rankings.
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Re: AP Preseason Top 25
« Reply #2 on: August 12, 2024, 01:39:26 PM »
You're not allowed to think that and certainly not allowed to say it.  We must all disparage the rankings and call the voters a bunch of idiots and/or sheeple and/or biased in favor of/against particular teams.

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Re: AP Preseason Top 25
« Reply #3 on: August 12, 2024, 01:54:23 PM »
TEAMS AND NUMBERS! TEAMS AND NUMBERS!!
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Re: AP Preseason Top 25
« Reply #4 on: August 12, 2024, 03:02:30 PM »
swap Ole Miss and Bama and Missouri and Florida State and I think they pretty much nailed it.
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Re: AP Preseason Top 25
« Reply #5 on: August 12, 2024, 03:49:41 PM »
Combining the two polls, what follows is:
AP Rank. Team, Coaches Rank


  • Georgia, 1
  • Ohio State, 2
  • Oregon, 3
  • Texas, 4
  • Alabama, 5
  • Ole Miss, 6
  • Notre Dame, 7
  • Penn State, 9
  • Michigan, 8
  • Florida State, 10
  • Mizzou, 11
  • Utah, 13
  • LSU, 12
  • Clemson, 14
  • Tennessee, 15
  • Oklahoma, 16
  • Oklahoma State, 18
  • Kansas State, 17
  • Miami, 19
  • aTm, 20
  • Zona, 21
  • Kansas, 24
  • USC, 23
  • NCST, 22
  • Iowa, 25
It is the exact same 25 teams and the only differences are pretty slight:
  • PSU/M flipped - 8/9
  • Utah/LSU flipped - 12/13
  • OkSU/KSU flipped - 17/18
  • Kansas/NCST flipped - 22/24

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Re: AP Preseason Top 25
« Reply #6 on: August 12, 2024, 04:08:55 PM »
Just for help in understanding the new 12-team CFP format if we use the AP and assume that the highest ranked team from each league will win that league, here would be the 2024 CFP seeds:

  • Georgia, SEC Champ
  • Ohio State, B1G Champ
  • Florida State, ACC Champ
  • Utah, B12 Champ
  • Oregon
  • Texas
  • Alabama
  • Ole Miss
  • Notre Dame
  • Penn State
  • Michigan
  • Boise State, MWC Champ and Champ #5 based on most ORV

Thus the first two rounds would be:
  • Boise State at Oregon, winner vs Utah
  • Michigan at Texas, winner vs Florida State
  • Penn State at Bama, winner vs Ohio State
  • Notre Dame at Ole Miss, winner vs Georgia

The Semi-finals would be:
  • Boise/Oregon/Utah vs Notre Dame/Ole Miss/Georgia
  • Michigan/Texas/Florida State vs Penn State/Bama/Ohio State


League mix is:
SEC, 4:
  • #1 UGA, #1 seed
  • #4 Texas, #6 seed
  • #5 Bama, #7 seed
  • #6 Ole Miss, #8 seed
B1G, 4:
  • #2 tOSU, #2 seed
  • #3 Oregon, #5 seed
  • #8 Penn State, #10 seed
  • #9 Michigan, #11 seed
ACC, 1:
  • #10 Florida State, #3 seed
B12, 1:
  • #12 Utah, #4 seed
Independent, 1:
  • #7 Notre Dame, #9 seed
WCC, 1:
  • Unranked Boise State, #12 seed

Best teams left out would be:
  • #11 Mizzou, SEC
  • #13 LSU, SEC
  • #14 Clemson, ACC
  • #15 Tennessee, SEC
  • #16 Oklahoma, SEC
  • #17 OkSU, B12

The above is my understanding, if someone disagrees please explain.  I could be wrong, this is new. 
« Last Edit: August 12, 2024, 04:20:42 PM by medinabuckeye1 »
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Re: AP Preseason Top 25
« Reply #7 on: August 12, 2024, 04:17:17 PM »
Looks correct to me.
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Re: AP Preseason Top 25
« Reply #8 on: August 12, 2024, 06:26:43 PM »
Oregon gets the prized #5 spot
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Re: AP Preseason Top 25
« Reply #9 on: August 12, 2024, 06:27:47 PM »
If the B1G would add Notre Dame and the SEC would add FSU.......

Top 10
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Re: AP Preseason Top 25
« Reply #10 on: August 12, 2024, 07:55:39 PM »
Any system including an unranked team and omitting the #11 team is a great system.
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Re: AP Preseason Top 25
« Reply #11 on: August 12, 2024, 08:09:14 PM »
lawyers and judges, dude
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Re: AP Preseason Top 25
« Reply #12 on: August 13, 2024, 10:51:20 AM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on August 12, 2024, 07:55:39 PM
Any system including an unranked team and omitting the #11 team is a great system.
As you know, I generally agree with you but two things to consider:

First this:
Quote from: FearlessF on August 12, 2024, 08:09:14 PM
lawyers and judges, dude
There really isn't a choice. If the G5 was shutout the CFP would get legal and political issues.

Second:
The best team left out is the fifth best team in the SEC, Mizzou. This really isn't terribly troubling to me as I don't think they are a realistic NC Conteder and there are already four teams representing the SEC.
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Re: AP Preseason Top 25
« Reply #13 on: August 13, 2024, 11:13:31 AM »
Quote from: FearlessF on August 12, 2024, 06:26:43 PM
Oregon gets the prized #5 spot
Let's analyze this.

Suppose that Oregon beats Ohio State in Autzen on October 12 and heads to Indianapolis for the B1GCG ranked #2 and 12-0. In Indianapolis they meet up with an 11-1 Ohio State team ranked #3.

At that point there are two likely outcomes for the Ducks:
  • Win the B1GCG and get the #2 seed, or
  • Lose the B1GCG and get the #5 seed.

Here is how those two paths compare:
First round:
  • #2 seed gets a bye.
  • #5 seed hosts Boise State
This is an advantage for the #2 seed but not much of one.

Second round:
  • #2 seed gets the PSU/Bama winner
  • #5 seed gets Utah
This is a HUMONGOUS advantage for the #5 seed.

Semi-finals:
  • #2 seed gets the Michigan/Texas/Florida State winner
  • #5 seed gets the Georgia/Ole Miss/Notre Dame winner
I see this as a likely advantage for the #2 seed but that assumes that Georgia doesn't get upset in the second round.

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